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Old 10-28-2004, 12:05 PM   #16
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It won't happen.

I keep saying BinLaden is the goose that lays the golden eggs.

If they got BinLaden at Tora Bora it would have been difficult to SELL the Iraq War to Americans.

Binladen is the "Joker" in Ws deck of cards.
And he can keep playing it over and over again.

Think about it-
they got Saddam and his two sons in a matter of a few weeks.

BinLaden is much more valuable on the loose. The run. They constantly play the 9/11 tape (verbaby) to maintain fear and uncertainty to their advantage.

Remember Bush 1 peaked too soon with desert storm 1. Ratings in the 90s only to lose to Clinton.

Why did they not get BinLaden is short fashion?

Like they got Saddam and Sons?

Interesting conspiracy theory.

Just remember, it's just your theory. If US had captured Bin, there would have been a conspiracy implicating Bush of capturing Bin for political timing. No matter what the dude does, there are whole army of people looking to sell books off it.
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Old 10-28-2004, 12:12 PM   #17
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Interesting conspiracy theory.

Just remember, it's just your theory. If US had captured Bin, there would have been a conspiracy implicating Bush of capturing Bin for political timing. No matter what the dude does, there are whole army of people looking to sell books off it.
hello,

it has been over THREE years

again how long did it take to find Saddam in a spider hole?

the isralies have no problem finding, and blowing away hezbollah leaders.
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I'm terribly confused at what's at stake during this Presidential election; I would like to hear your take on your candidate and why I should vote for him...

I'm not fielding any questions, I just want some advice, I'm very undecided at this point and its getting close...help me out.
If you want a President to lead for the next four years - Bush

If you want a President who can second guess the last four years - Kerry


You may disagree with some of the steps or methods used by GWB, but the US will end up in a better place long-term because of his leadership.
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Old 10-28-2004, 12:20 PM   #19
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hello,

it has been over THREE years

again how long did it take to find Saddam in a spider hole?

the isralies have no problem finding, and blowing away hezbollah leaders.

You get what I'm saying though, right? Even if the US had found Bin Laden earlier, there would have been another kind of spin put on it.

The reality of the situation is that Afgahnistan has all of those cool caves to hide in. In Iraq, Saddam had to settle for some man-made tiny hole. I definitatly believe that the US has done everything possible in order to find him. I think you're reading to much into it. We're talking about finding 1 man on our large earth. I know we have great technology and all but claiming there is a conspiracy isn't a very solid arguement.
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hello,

it has been over THREE years

again how long did it take to find Saddam in a spider hole?

the isralies have no problem finding, and blowing away hezbollah leaders.
Hello,


There is a slight difference in geographic size and history of surveillance between the west bank and the Afghan-Pakistan border.

Perhaps if Kerry had supported intelligence agency funding over the years, the task of tracking him down would be easier.
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i think brother estrada has made up his mind already
he's playin us.
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No, that's not really true...while I'm registered in one party, I crossed party lines 4 years ago to vote...I simply need the information to form a solid and justifiable (to me) vote.

Please don't put words or thoughts into my posts that suggest I'm playing...I'm not.

But please, db9, let me know why you believe that I'm playing you (all),,,back it up....

You should all know that I live in the OC;
I just may write-in B-1 Bob Dornan...that might solve everyone's problems...
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Old 10-28-2004, 02:03 PM   #23
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haha.

i was thinking after having met u..that u seemed like the type of fellow that woulda decided long ago, but who knows, right?

anyway here's a link w a vid that speaks volumes..
this may sway u one way or another way who knows?.
enjoy.
http://www.dailyrecycler.com/blog/2004/10/choice.html

peace,
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I'm terribly confused at what's at stake during this Presidential election
many feel that the next president will fil vacancies forl as much as half of the supreme court.

this can not be underestimated, yet it is rarely discussed.
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Strange as it sounds, maybe an election year isn't the best time to decide who to vote for. I'm more interested in what they do when the camera is off than what they say the last weeks before the election.
That's the best damn post I've seen on FYM in some time. Election years are full of pollsters, pundits, spin doctors and every other damn person making pitches for Candidate X. None of this means a damn thing once the person takes office. I mean, hell, please don't tell me politicians never break their promises. The important thing is what they do in office, to hell with what they said or did to get elected. I'm sorry to sound so discouraging, Mr. BAW, I understand this is not exactly why you posted your note. I just got home from work at the library. When I was at work I thought, gosh, it'd be an intolerable state of affairs in this country if everyone was as damn cynical about politics as we historians are. Whatever you do, folks, never vote for a historian.
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OK, now I'll just tell you why I'm voting for Kerry. I don't like Bush's policy on the environment. He's weakened rules for companies that pollute our air and poison our waterways. Even though I'm a practicing Catholic, I'm not really that wild about his position on abortion. I'm against it in principle, but I oppose laws that would make it illegal. It wouldn't make abortion go away if they made it illegal, it would just drive it underground and create a great big underworld market for unsafe and unregulated abortions. I do pray that it stops as I believe it is wrong. I prefer a President Kerry to pick our next few Supreme Court Justices. Four of the Justices have been diagnosed with cancer, and Renquists's case might end his career. I also favor letting people import drugs from Canada. I don't buy this stuff about drugs from Canada not being safe as many of these drugs are actually made in the U.S. and have been approved by the FDA. Also, I find it a bit strange that I, a liberal, disapprove of the deficit that Bush has run up. Traditionally, liberals don't give a about deficits, it's the conservatives who don't like them. I am conservative enough to not be wild about deficit spending. Can Kerry tame the deficit situation? I'm willing to give him a chance.
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You should all know that I live in the OC;
I just may write-in B-1 Bob Dornan...that might solve everyone's problems...

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reread verte's post.

vote Kerry if you believe in the following:
-- separation of church and state
-- helping the world, not attacking it
-- catching bin Laden
-- spending money on education instead of unneeded wars
-- health care for all
-- social security reform
-- 20 years of leadership in the Senate
-- hope, not fear mongering
-- fiscal responsibility
-- no blood for oil
-- taking pride in being an American, especially when you are overseas

vote for Bush if you believe in the following:
-- strapping your children with HUGE taxes to pay off the present deficit
-- deficits that will destabilize the economy
-- being a bully is good, cooperation is bad
-- Saddam Huessin funded the 9/11 attacks
-- trading Sammy Sosa away from the Rangers was a good idea
-- reinstituting the draft [this will be a reality]
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Its so obvious, Kerry is some sort of enlightened super-being and bush is a crude and undisciplined fool.
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Its so obvious, Kerry is some sort of enlightened super-being and bush is a crude and undisciplined fool.
Not really. Kerry is not my ideal candidate. I'm not under the illusion that he's some sort of knight in shining armor. I just think he'd be better than Bush. The last thing Bush did something I agreed with it was right after 9/11 and we were invading Afghanistan. That's alot of disagreeing.
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