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Man is not the pride of creation. The pride of creation is the silence on the 7th day; this silence can be interpreted as a symbol for the harmonic, balanced life of mankind with nature.
Famine is really more often a product of poor government policy than a genuine shortage, in relation to the 20th Century compared to the 19th Century one can see that food production has increased at a much greater rate than population growth and the yield of farmland has also increased, that increase is a direct result of scientific investigation and technological application. Since 1950 the population has doubled and food production has tripled, but by the same token food security has dropped in some parts of the developing world leading to famine. But overall people are better fed today than they were 50 years ago and in the developing world have a higher average daily calorie intake. The negative trends that are observed in some places are results of goverment and unsustainable farming practices that are supressing supply, I do not think that they are a direct result of ag tech. The problem as you highlighted is the unequal distribution and trade barriers (and I think that elimination of subsidies will be a step in the right direction). The great famines in the 20th Century have a much higher correlation to experiments in collectivism by totalitarian communist regimes than a genuine inability for production.If technology is so great and the solution to all poverty, why has the overall standard of living not increased significantly in the last 50 years? If technology was the means to save people who hunger, then why didn´t it save the big numbers since the start of the 50s?
How is it not one of the most remarkable inventions of mankind? Applied to weapons uncontrolled nuclear fusion is surely a terrible destructive power but when we can harness that very same power in a controlled manner we will possess a virtually unlimited source of energy, such a development could eliminate the need for fossil fuels and nuclear fission for energy production.Oh and I think the H-Bomb is a great technological invention, doesn´t harm nature at all and will save a couple of million lives
And if this is just mythology then what?whenhiphopdrovethebigcars said:Man is not the pride of creation. The pride of creation is the silence on the 7th day; this silence can be interpreted as a symbol for the harmonic, balanced life of mankind with nature.
A_Wanderer said:
The problem as you highlighted is the unequal distribution and trade barriers (and I think that elimination of subsidies will be a step in the right direction).
Come on, non-sentient life forms having equal rights to man? What about Tsetse flies or malarial mosquitos should they have equal "right to live" as human beings? The rights of man should not be extended to non-sentient organisms because they are unnacountable for their actions. We are not going to be sending a tiger to jail if it kills and consumes a gazelle, that is nature, that is the order of things. Likewise I am going to be species-centric and state that human life has a higher value for human society than other animals and sacrificing other animals for human benefit is perfectly fine. This includes hunting (I can speak from experience in trapping, skinning and eating rabbit, a pest of a creature here in Australia that does damage here), domestication, consumption, animal testing, using animal hides for clothing. As long as the animals are treated in a humane manner I do not have a problem with it.I think every plant, every animal, every living being has the same right to live like a man.
IT HAS NOT BEEN IN TUNE! What about the freaking ice age that wiped a shitload of species off the map and nearly took out human beings that only ended 10,000 years ago? Whatever happened to the wolly mammoths, smilodons and dimetrodons? What about North Africa before desertification managed to transform so much fertile land into sandy waste? These major changes occured without the intervention of man. Increased volcanism during the cretaceous allowed the atmosphere to be pumped with CO2, I am taking bulk quantity that is several magnitudes higher than what we have today. That was a natural process, natural global warming, the contribution of human emissions today relative to that given off by the earth during volacanic events etc. is less than 5%, or we can go to the carboniferous period when mass glaciation occured and the entire continent, it also had the burial of masive quantities of carbon from swamps that lead to oxygen concentrations 80% higher than today. The earth is dynamic, understanding it is science, understanding our limits, what we can do, what we cannot do and what we shouldn't do is also a product of science.I also despise the shortsightedness of techno-materialists when it comes to the systems of nature. That balanced system has been in tune (sometimes more, sometimes less, but basically always in tune) for 100,000 years and more. Why change it?
A_Wanderer said:None, and I am not claiming any special first hand experience and anecdotes to backup my assertions.
A_Wanderer said:
1. Come on, non-sentient life forms having equal rights to man? What about Tsetse flies or malarial mosquitos should they have equal "right to live" as human beings?
2. We are not going to be sending a tiger to jail if it kills and consumes a gazelle, that is nature, that is the order of things.
3. Likewise I am going to be species-centric and state that human life has a higher value for human society than other animals and sacrificing other animals for human benefit is perfectly fine.
4. As long as the animals are treated in a humane manner I do not have a problem with it.
A_Wanderer said:Your speaking about the earth as if it is some mystical thing, unless you are being metaphorical that is illogical.
Really like those miracles in pieces of religious iconography that get proven fakes time and time again? the raw numbers game that of the six billion people on the planet a small number seem to beat odds that are one in a few million? the rising of the sun or the birthing of an infant and all the other of those everyday "miracles"?whenhiphopdrovethebigcars said:
True. Planet Earth is full of miracles that we will never be able to explain with our wimpy human logic; asking for the meaning of life like a beggar, while overlooking the miracles.
A_Wanderer said:a chicken is a very dumb bird
Fuck the ELF, ALF, PETA and all other of the fucking anti-human "animal-rights" groups and their thuggish tactics. I will enjoy my modern medicine, pets and leathe clothing - they should just live their damn lives without.
this argument refers to me putting the life of a human being ahead of that of another species of animal. You then elaborate to a rhetorical question to suggest a race based issue, because plainly if I see a difference between a chicken and a human then I would have the same attitude towards other human beings. I think people can decide what you were saying.You think human life has a higher value? Our race has a higher value? Go ahead, this argument serves as an excuse for mankind to treat animals just like Nazis treated Jews in concentration camps.
blueyedpoet said:
in all seriousness, or some form of seriousness, what are your problems with Karma? Or, am i missing something that happened in some previous forum?
I figured i must've missed something.martha said:
You misunderstand. I am not the one with problems.
And yes, you have missed many discussions on the subject right here in FYM.
blueyedpoet said:
where does this belief come from?
A_Wanderer said:I don't believe in God and I have experienced euphoria before, but I understand it to be the working of brain chemistry and not supernatural intervention.
i'm interested in understanding where your particular belief about karma comes from? what experiences make in undoubtable?MacHat said:
What do you mean?
I'm really tired, so I'm not sure I follow you .
If you're asking where abouts the term karma etc comes from, I'm pretty sure it's from India, but someone can correct me if I'm wrong. What you give you always get back in return.
I've never understood why natural explanations neccesarily eradicate the possibilty of God. Might the way we are be a result of some design?A_Wanderer said:Feelings of intense happiness coupled with an almost tingling sensation down my back and a wave of feeling across my scalp. Sparked by emotional responses, completing the biological imperitive or stimulated by opiates. The control of these is very complex and I have not studied very much neurology, I do understand that dopamine is an important neurotransmitter but it's function is not quite as simple as a increased levels = increased happiness.
Like everything else in the universe we are but a complex system that can be reduced to it's basic components; energy, dimensions and fundamental physical laws. Interactions born from these are what forms everything in the universe and it is not impossible to explain them.