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Old 08-17-2007, 01:10 PM   #46
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i'm not saying that HRC is necessarily my choice. i am saying that things are looking good for her right now, and i'm feeling okay with that.
Precisely how I feel.

I don't know who I'll vote for in the primaries. I'll vote for the Democrat candidate in the general election, and I'm okay with just about any of them really. I like Obama, HRC, Kucinich, Biden...they're all worthy candidates.
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If he had not palgiarized speeches when he ran in 1988, he may have been president already.

That said, I like him, but I like Obama better.
Right, but he's moved on from that, and so has the country.


I Obama, but I feel Biden has the substance that Obama lacks.

That being said, I agree with Irvine that he'd make an excellent Sec. of State. I'll probably still vote for him just because I think he has earned my vote. He's the only candidate I feel I can truly trust to lead this country out of Iraq after this president.
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Oh yeah, Joe Biden's son, Beau Biden is being shipped to Iraq next year.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20316309/
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I'm leaning more and more towards Edwards.
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Old 08-17-2007, 07:08 PM   #50
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Right, but he's moved on from that, and so has the country.

Short memory....LOL

Sorry, but if the country had/has moved on....he would be doing better.
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Short memory....LOL

Sorry, but if the country had/has moved on....he would be doing better.
I haven't heard anybody talking about "oh that Joe, I don't like him because he plagarized speeches"


The reason he isn't doing better, as he has said, is that this year we have a woman, and an african-american who have significant chances at being nominated and being elected president, the media locks in on that and obsesses over it, and it kind of looks away from the "2nd tier" candidates, so fewer people know who they are and it's hard for them to break through all the noise in the media to get their message out to people beyond us political junkies.
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I haven't heard anybody talking about "oh that Joe, I don't like him because he plagarized speeches"

well, you heard me say it!!!! I have at least three colleagues who have said it. Us older folk...hehe
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Well people ought to move on. He's apologized for it, said he was stupid for doing it, and I doubt he'd be stupid enough to do it again.
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well, you heard me say it!!!! I have at least three colleagues who have said it. Us older folk...hehe
He's not doing better because he's a white, northeastern, rich, priveleged liberal, who like Kerry is/was the smartest guy on the podium. So the Dems want to move elsewhere. It has nothing to do with that plagarism issue. That and the absolute monster of Hillary. He can't get an undecided vote, who can?

He used some quotes and didn't reveal the source!!!!!
Yeah and it was only Twenty Years Ago!!!!!!!
Oh my God, we should string him up!!!!!!!
I mean, I'd rather my President defy the Constitution than quasi-plagarize someone!!!!

The stakes are slightly higher these days.

Nobody serious is taking this into consideration and if they are, they aren't serious and you should personally tell them to grow up.
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Nobody serious is taking this into consideration and if they are, they aren't serious and you should personally tell them to grow up.

Nah, I rather enjoy hearing all points of view.
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I mean, I'd rather my President defy the Constitution than quasi-plagarize someone!!!!
Why are you bringing Bush into this thread? What exactly does this have to do with Biden?
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If he's still around when my state's primary is held I'll most likely vote for Kucinich.

I doubt he'll be the nominee however, so I'll most likely have to hold my nose and vote for the least bad choice after that.
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If he's still around when my state's primary is held I'll most likely vote for Kucinich.

I doubt he'll be the nominee however, so I'll most likely have to hold my nose and vote for the least bad choice after that.
I think you should write him in......

I hate when people vote that way.
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I hate when people vote that way.
Which way?
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Which way?

for the least bad choice after that.
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