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Old 08-24-2007, 01:54 PM   #166
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Is Edwards phony?

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No offense diamond, but your original post had nothing to do with his popularity in the polls. You brought that in later - which is why this is getting so confusing. There is nothing in this post that says Edwards should give it up because he isn't popular in the polls.
Good point, so let me clarify, in my view it's an ominous sign based on the polling data, that he should not be running and it's suspect that is using his wife's illness for polictical purposes.

Are we clear?

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Yes, and I disagree with you that he is using his wife's illness for political purposes, detailed in my original post.
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ok then.
Regardless hoping we're still friends.



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Old 08-24-2007, 02:21 PM   #169
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ok then.
Regardless hoping we're still friends.



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of course!

I do hope you reconsider the character of John Edwards though. Whether or not he's right for the presidency, I think he's a genuine guy - not a shady guy. It's for John Edwards and his family to decide what is best for them while being forced to accept Elizabeth's cancer.
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of course!

I do hope you reconsider the character of John Edwards though. Whether or not he's right for the presidency, I think he's a genuine guy - not a shady guy. It's for John Edwards and his family to decide what is best for them while being forced to accept Elizabeth's cancer.
I think he and Obama are both neat guys.

And I don't know how Edwards has been able to cope the way he has with all the tragedy in his life.

I do feel he will have his time, but it isn't now-that's where we differ is all.

I've voted in the last 8 presidentail elections and expect to see Edwards in 2012.

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I think he and Obama are both neat guys.

And I don't know how Edwards has been able to cope the way he has with all the tragedy in his life.

I do feel he will have his time, but it isn't now-that's where we differ is all.

I've voted in the last 8 presidentail elections and expect to see Edwards in 2012.

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Well, you had me fooled. I thought you were saying that you thought Edwards wasn't a neat guy at all.

All of my arguments were to his character and his right to run and not be judged for it, not whether this was the right time or whether he would win. I actually do agree with you and think that HRC or Obama will become the democratic nominee. But hey, who knows what can happen and maybe we'll be surprised.
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I've voted in the last 8 presidentail elections and expect to see Edwards in 2012.

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you voted when you were 14?

or are
presidentail elections
something different

presiden tail? Monica L vs. Marilyn M?
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oops.
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I think they need a different set of candidates if we have to vote on the best tail.
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I didn't say it was, only an electability issue.
You're attempting to make it polictical.
I'm glad they have a great marriage.
Please quit trying to misconstrue my words and thoughts on the subject.

Here are Edwards' numbers in the Democratic field, in case you've haven't had a chance to view them.

Average 08/06 to 08/22

37.8 Clinton
22.2 Obama
11.7 Edwards
3.7 Richardson
12.8 *Gore

Clinton has a +15.6 lead over all contenders.

*Note Gore who isn't even in the race is polling higher than Edwards.

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I'm not misconstruing anything-you have done it since she announced her recurrence. If you want to insist otherwise, go right ahead I guess Rudy should be disqualified too, and Fred Thompson and John McCain-their cancer might come back some day, God forbid.

agendas , personal or otherwise

Where is the proof that those numbers have anything to do with Elizabeth's cancer?
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That says it all really - America has only one party with a highly authoritarian wing (Republicans) and a mildly less authoritarian wing (Democrats).

I'm sceptical as to Ron Paul's postion on that graph however - he should surely fall into the libertarian side.
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I'm sceptical as to Ron Paul's postion on that graph however - he should surely fall into the libertarian side.
Except that he's compromised too much in order to get the Republican vote.
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Except that he's compromised too much in order to get the Republican vote.
I'm be intrigued to hear some examples. I have not seen the hint of compromise on any issues.
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I'm sceptical as to Ron Paul's postion on that graph however - he should surely fall into the libertarian side.
He has held some positions that indicate he's what you could call a "fiscal libertarian." His social views are more in line with "social conservatism" from what I have surmised. He is from Texas, after all.
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