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Old 10-02-2002, 04:15 PM   #31
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Actually I've been a lurker since the place started and only recently got another username and started to post.

And I really need someone to expalin to me where I've been disrespectful.
Well since you've been lurking, you would know not to piss off a mod.....especially Lilly ( )
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Old 10-02-2002, 04:15 PM   #32
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wait wait. let me guess. You were just kidding around and we obviously don't have senses of humor. If you have been lurking this whooooooole time then you would have seen how many people had the bright idea you had.







Editied because I left a word out.
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Old 10-02-2002, 04:21 PM   #33
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I still don't think this is a diverse place
if you ask others here, we're not diverse because all of us mods here are liberal.

but seriously, i think this is a diverse place. there's always so much discussion going on, if this place wasn't diverse, every thread would crash and burn, as every reply would be "i agree!" "spot on!" and the like.

the only reason i think the thread was closed (i'm not even a mod here so believe me, i had no play in it) was because it was originally just set up to be a link, and no discussion. if threads were started with the intent that no discussion would go on, what would be the point? unfortunately, i think your deciding to start the discussion just came a little too late. sorry.
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Old 10-02-2002, 04:27 PM   #34
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OK - after reading this I got annoyed.

I reply when I get annoyed...

This thread is total bullshit. How can people sit here and say they never saw a thread when it was closed. Aren't moderators the only people that can close threads?

I first read the abortion thread, which in my opinion (and that is what THIS forum is about) is a good subject for this forum, however, only really appropriate if people asked for the information. If people asked sparkysgirl for the info and she said she would post it - what is the harm in that? If she however, used this forum as a way to propagate abortion, than that is wrong. I have to believe the former.

In any event, I also cannot see where she attacked any of the moderators, but simply asked where her thread went. It may have been slightly obnoxious, but I think actually more sincere.

How can this site support such assinine threads about "guess which are real or fake" "which NSYNC star are you?" or "what kind of British chocolate bar are you?" and allow the users to simply post a thread such as "TRY THIS" and then the link, but will not allow a thread in a discussion forum about abortion which clearly had the same premise (a link) as the previously mentioned threads.

The only explanation is that the people who opposed this thread are opposed to its content, and after reading all the replies it is evident. If the thread was posted to start debate, raise questions, ask for opposing opinions, or simply give information, what is the harm?

Instead the thread simply showed what kind of power the moderators have and possibly what kind of reaction a user will get when they are questioned. I am NOT saying anything negative about the moderators as they are indeed a crucial part of this site, but when an outside user reads the threads in chronilogical order, it seems the moderator was doing a bit more attacking than the user.

The whole thing is quite upsetting as the underlying tone here is that people did not like the content of the original post.

I clearly do not know sparkysgirl and have to admit have probably never seen a previous post by her (and had I read the nazi comment I would have jumped on that just as fast), but this just seemed a bit heavy handed.



I guess in the end the post did cause a bit of debate, mostly about how things are run here and not about abortion. shame




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I have started a number of threads that contained information-only content--where to write your congressman about this or that, for example, or websites that I thought people might be interested in. Those threads generated no discussion, nor were they intended to, and they were never closed or deleted.
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or, in other words, what ouizy said
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Ouizy, I see your point....and my opinion on abortion is completely irrelevant to my opinion on how sparkysgirrl presented herself in this thread. I can understand her frustration, however I think she chose her words poorly. However, pretending that the thread never exisited and saying "I have no idea what you are talking about." no more than minutes after closing said thread was not right either. So I guess both sides are kinda in the wrong on this one.
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In fact, Sparkygrrl's abortion thread was NO DIFFERENT than her threads on Fair Trade and Factory Farms. Why weren't those closed and her hands slapped?
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Nothing but whiny children...

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Originally posted by KhanadaRhodes

if you ask others here, we're not diverse because all of us mods here are liberal.

Hehehehe liberalism


I ask some of you though, liberalism represents upmost freedoms, so why would a liberalist mod close any thread? Theyd obviously have a damn good reason, its not because theyre trying to censor anyone. Last time I checked, liberalists didnt believe in censorship. In fact, being one myself, Im pretty sure they dont believe in it.



I think there are two main problems here. 1, the thread in question was not made to initiate any discussion and therefore does not fit the criteria of the board. 2, while controversial, the discussion that did result from it was placed here, which I have a problem with, since its blatant trolling and should have been closed a long time ago. 3, people are still sorta discussing abortion, but are more going out to either defend the mods, or attack them. Heres a hint for you. They dont have to sit here and put up with all your bullshit, if they get tired of every thread turning into a mod censorship thread, theyll close the whole site down permanently instead of for a short stint like before. So, how about you all stop being so childish and accept the fact that others may have differing opinions from you. You cant force your beliefs on anyone else, nor should you try.


The point of this thread is to discuss, no more, no less. The intention is for you to all become further enlightened people with the ability to see things from both sides of the spectrum. If all you do is whine and bitch about how everyone else doesnt agree with you, then youve missed the damn point and will end up causing more problems. To free your mind is to unbind the restrictions that you have acquired over your life and to attain unbiased knowlege. This is a philosophical forum at heart. Yet here we are bitching about how someones thread was closed.


I could talk all day about it, but very few of you will get it *shot to your collective intelligence* youre all too tied up taking personal offense to being called 'childish' right now to even give a rats ass what I said and what it meant. Am I right? Of course I am. Something happens you dont like, suddenly the world revolves around you and you go bitching to the mods about how nothings fair and how everyones conspiring against you and you have so many rights and all sorts of other shit.

Fact of the matter: Youre here by privelege alone, its not a right, and like all other priveleges, it can be taken away. The mods are here to keep the forums clean as they see fit. They are here spending their time of day, unpaid, so that you can have a pleasant environment. *sweeping generalization* Goodness knows how everyone here doesnt think of anyone but themselves when they post a subject or a reply.

Free your mind... my ass... get it through your heads. You start fights and ignore everyone else, your threads are going to get closed.



I agree that abortion is an important topic. But theres absolutely no way you can justify throwing a random link up here. I personally think that it would have had more place in lemonade stand being thrown out as a random link then here. Had discussion gone along with it, then here would be better. But it had nothing to do with the morals of abortion, it was simply 'if youre interested in abortion information click here' which is something anyone could put into a search engine and find on their own if they were so inclined. How often is it that an interferencer personally needs an abortion or requires information about it? By my reckoning, not very. Thus it doesnt deserve its own thread soley for linking perposes, not in free your mind at any rate.



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Old 10-02-2002, 04:50 PM   #41
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Good fucking point.

It seems to be her 'style' of posting. Maybe she will learn a lesson from this and not just post links, but again there are a ton of "link" threads here that can be used as precedents so I think we really should wait for a response by the moderators to see exactly why THAT thread was closed.

I smell hypocracy in the air.


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In fact, Sparkygrrl's abortion thread was NO DIFFERENT than her threads on Fair Trade and Factory Farms. Why weren't those closed and her hands slapped?
i have to disagree with this. anyone and everyone knows that discussing something like abortion, which is such an emotional issue to begin with, is very different than attempting to discuss farming or trade. providing a link to abortion providers is simply not the same thing as providing a link to information on free trade. i find it very difficult to believe that she would be surprised at the emotional response she got. and i also find it strange that she would bring the topic up and then state that she didn't want to discuss it. it's an issue with too many emotional ties. i, for one, cannot just read something like her post and sit idley by. it's impossible for me, and for many other people i would guess.
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Ok, then say 'this thread is closed because of its emotionally-charged content' and not because it only provided a link without inviting discussion. She also started threads with just links to the coverage of anti-war protests and "Find out what goes on with the companies you buy from". People (some moderators) happily responded to those threads with things like, 'interesting link, thanks!'
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i see what you're saying, but i still think that posting a link with news is different than posting a link to abortion providers. i don't think a mod needs to come out and directly state that when most people already saw the difference.
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Ok, then say 'this thread is closed because of its emotionally-charged content' and not because it only provided a link
ok, maybe it could have been dealt with a bit better in the communication department, but I think Screaming Flower pointed out the difference very well between this thread and other threads mentioned here

so, now that we've worked that one out
we can all get back to business
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