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Old 10-31-2005, 10:17 AM   #1
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When Being A Good Person Costs You Your Life

Should people still be good and help others when this is what they get for it? I like to believe the answer is still yes.


(CNN) -- A Texas woman was allegedly robbed and killed by three hurricane evacuees she befriended after meeting them at her church, according to Pasadena, Texas, police.

Betty Blair, 77, was strangled to death inside her Pasadena home Friday and her bound body was discovered by her daughter Friday evening, said Pasadena Police spokesman Vance Mitchell.

Three suspects -- all described as hurricane evacuees -- were arrested Friday evening after police located the dead woman's missing car through its OnStar electronic tracking system, Mitchell said.

The three had been hired by Blair to do odds jobs around her home, including cutting her grass, Mitchell said.

"Unfortunately, it looks like her good will cost her her life," Mitchell said.

Two of the suspects are teenagers who evacuated from Beaumont, Texas, in the wake of Hurricane Rita, Mitchell said. They were identified as Jimmy Hoang Le, 18, and Stephanie Jacobo, 18.

The third suspect, 43-year-old Roosevelt Smith Jr., apparently was a Hurricane Katrina evacuee from New Orleans, Mitchell said.

They met Blair when they sought help from St. Pius V Catholic Church in Pasadena, where she volunteered in the church's food pantry.

When police realized Blair's 2000 Buick, which was missing, was equipped with OnStar, they quickly tracked it and it was stopped at a Beltway toll booth in the Dallas area, Mitchell said.

The suspects were arrested without a confrontation, he said. Jacobo's 10-month-old son, who was also in the car, has been handed over to relatives, he said.

Blair was described as a highly respected woman whose husband, a former Pasadena school board president, died several months ago.
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people really can be assholes. not to start a death penalty debate, but i am kinda happy that texas has it available for people like this.
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I realize it's wrong to think this way, but how can you not be more defensive and less likely to help others when something like this may happen?

Call it the cynic coming out in me, but I'd rather live than attempt to help someone who may potentially want to harm me.
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humanity at its worst.

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Attempting to help someone who may potentially want to harm me is living.

This act of kindness cost the woman her life.

People suffer to some degree every day when trying to be a good person.
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People suffer to some degree every day when trying to be a good person.

Yes, that is so true. When you try to be a good person some people will take advantage of you, disregard your feelings, treat you like a doormat. Sometimes it really can make you believe that the only way to get ahead in life is to not be a good person, sometimes it seems like those people get all the breaks in life.

Maybe it all comes down to being able to live w/ yourself though, in spite of how tough it can get

She died for trying to help others (albeit "people" who didn't deserve the kindness of someone like her), maybe that is a noble cause worth dying for , it's morally right at least. It is just so incredibly unjust and hard to fathom though.
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I realize it's wrong to think this way, but how can you not be more defensive and less likely to help others when something like this may happen?

Call it the cynic coming out in me, but I'd rather live than attempt to help someone who may potentially want to harm me.
yeah..I agree and its too bad isn't it Just this morning I saw a person either broken down or out of gas on the side of the road...it makes my heart ache to go by them but I did...it was 6am and it was a man withen a mile of town...but you just never know
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How about the Katrina victems spending there money here in MA on strippers. We have had plenty of that going on here.

Nice use of tax money.
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Well, when all people do is scream "you aren't acting fast enough," you end up with money going to places where it really isn't needed.

FEMA's reaction to the press criticism will costs us $$$$.
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Well, when all people do is scream "you aren't acting fast enough," you end up with money going to places where it really isn't needed.

FEMA's reaction to the press criticism will costs us $$$$.


perhaps if FEMA had, i don't know, not waited a weeek to get their asses on the ground they wouldn't be trying to make up for their justifiably ruined reputation by tossing money at the problem.

or perhaps this is another example of the Republican's utter inteptitute when it comes to governing?
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I think it's simply another example of man's inhumanity to man..it has nothing to do w/ FEMA or the hurricane really

What is the likelihood that those people would have murdered someone in some other situation? Maybe the hurricane just gave them opportunity, I don't know

It's disgusting and discouraging, this world that we live in. Luckily there are still people who will help others in spite of the risks they face on a daily basis for doing so. When you really stop to think about how heroic that is..
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I think it's simply another example of man's inhumanity to man..it has nothing to do w/ FEMA or the hurricane really
come on,
don't you get it by now


this is all code
we can attack the victims of katrina for deeds done by a few


(we really don't like them, those people, there shiftless and lazy)
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come on,
don't you get it by now


this is all code
we can attack the victims of katrina for deeds done by a few


(we really don't like them, those people, there shiftless and lazy)


and they all look the same anyway.
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Sorry MrsSpringsteen. Another thread derailed by a different agenda.
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Sorry MrsSpringsteen. Another thread derailed by a different agenda.
Thanks

I give up, sometimes I really hate this forum. And I'm not too good of a person to say that..
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