What no Michael Moore posts?

[Dreadsox]

Come on now....someone has to be itching to fill us with Mr. Moore's latest letter. I have been waiting for twenty four hours to make a response.

 

[Angela Harlem]

I'll bite...what letter?

 

[Dreadsox]

I'll bite...what letter?

Hehehe...its no fun if I have to tell you!!!!

 

[Angela Harlem]

Do I have to do EVERYTHING around here???

Wednesday, April 14th, 2004
Heads Up... from Michael Moore


Friends,

I have never seen a head so far up a Presidential ass (pardon my Falluja) than the one I saw last night at the "news conference" given by George W. Bush. He's still talking about finding "weapons of mass destruction" -- this time on Saddam's "turkey farm." Turkey indeed. Clearly the White House believes there are enough idiots in the 17 swing states who will buy this. I think they are in for a rude awakening.

I've been holed up for weeks in the editing room finishing my film ("Fahrenheit 911"). That's why you haven't heard from me lately. But after last night's Lyndon Johnson impersonation from the East Room -- essentially promising to send even more troops into the Iraq sinkhole -- I had to write you all a note.

First, can we stop the Orwellian language and start using the proper names for things? Those are not ?contractors? in Iraq. They are not there to fix a roof or to pour concrete in a driveway. They are MERCENARIES and SOLDIERS OF FORTUNE. They are there for the money, and the money is very good if you live long enough to spend it.

Halliburton is not a "company" doing business in Iraq. It is a WAR PROFITEER, bilking millions from the pockets of average Americans. In past wars they would have been arrested -- or worse.

The Iraqis who have risen up against the occupation are not "insurgents" or "terrorists" or "The Enemy." They are the REVOLUTION, the Minutemen, and their numbers will grow -- and they will win. Get it, Mr. Bush? You closed down a friggin' weekly newspaper, you great giver of freedom and democracy! Then all hell broke loose. The paper only had 10,000 readers! Why are you smirking?

One year after we wiped the face of the Saddam statue with our American flag before yanking him down, it is now too dangerous for a single media person to go to that square in Baghdad and file a report on the wonderful one-year anniversary celebration. Of course, there is no celebration, and those brave blow-dried "embeds" can't even leave the safety of the fort in downtown Baghdad. They never actually SEE what is taking place across Iraq (most of the pictures we see on TV are shot by Arab media and some Europeans). When you watch a report "from Iraq" what you are getting is the press release handed out by the U.S. occupation force and repeated to you as "news."

I currently have two cameramen/reporters doing work for me in Iraq for my movie (unbeknownst to the Army). They are talking to soldiers and gathering the true sentiment about what is really going on. They Fed Ex the footage back to me each week. That's right, Fed Ex. Who said we haven't brought freedom to Iraq! The funniest story my guys tell me is how when they fly into Baghdad, they don't have to show a passport or go through immigration. Why not? Because they have not traveled from a foreign country -- they're coming from America TO America, a place that is ours, a new American territory called Iraq.

There is a lot of talk amongst Bush's opponents that we should turn this war over to the United Nations. Why should the other countries of this world, countries who tried to talk us out of this folly, now have to clean up our mess? I oppose the U.N. or anyone else risking the lives of their citizens to extract us from our debacle. I'm sorry, but the majority of Americans supported this war once it began and, sadly, that majority must now sacrifice their children until enough blood has been let that maybe -- just maybe -- God and the Iraqi people will forgive us in the end.

Until then, enjoy the "pacification" of Falluja, the "containment" of Sadr City, and the next Tet Offensive ? oops, I mean, "terrorist attack by a small group of Baathist loyalists" (Hahaha! I love writing those words, Baathist loyalists, it makes me sound so Peter Jennings!) -- followed by a "news conference" where we will be told that we must "stay the course" because we are "winning the hearts and minds of the people."

I'll write again soon. Don't despair. Remember, the American people are not that stupid. Sure, we can be frightened into a war, but we always come around sooner or later -- and the one way this is NOT like Vietnam is that it hasn't taken the public four long years to figure out they were lied to.

Now if Bush would just quit speaking in public and giving me more free material for my movie, I can get back to work and get it done. I've got four weeks left 'til completion.

Yours,

Michael Moore
mmflint@aol.com
www.michaelmoore.com

 

[Angela Harlem]

He talks a lot, but doesn't seem to say much.

Maybe its late, and I'm not following this letter properly...I dunno, there's something about Moore which bugs me. Whatever truth or fact seems to get lost in his 'performance' or something.


So what do you think of it Dread?

 

[Dreadsox]

He talks a lot, but doesn't seem to say much.

Maybe its late, and I'm not following this letter properly...I dunno, there's something about Moore which bugs me. Whatever truth or fact seems to get lost in his 'performance' or something.


So what do you think of it Dread?

I think he lies as bad as the administration. I think he is getting ready to hype is movie. I will be back with MOORE.

 

[A_Wanderer]

Ah yes the infamous minuteman post. I disagree with his opinions but at least he opposed both Sanctions, Operation Desert Fox and the 2003 war, most anti-war people dont even know when Desert Fox occured or that Clinton authorised the policy of regime change.

 

[verte76]

He really doesn't seem to be saying that much........I dunno, maybe it's these allergies.

 

[Rono]

With the soldiers of fortune and the Halliburton part, i agree,....

 

[Dreadsox]

[Q]I have never seen a head so far up a Presidential ass (pardon my Falluja) than the one I saw last night at the "news conference" given by George W. Bush. He's still talking about finding "weapons of mass destruction" -- this time on Saddam's "turkey farm." Turkey indeed. Clearly the White House believes there are enough idiots in the 17 swing states who will buy this. I think they are in for a rude awakening. [/Q]


This is the first paragraph. It is amazing to me that he cannot even get into his "letter" without writing something completely wrong. It is clear to me that Michael Moore was not listening to the President when the President was talking.

President Bush did get one thing correct. Lybia taking steps to disarm itself is a direct result of his foreign policy.

It was Lybia which disclosed its WMD on the farm. The President brought this up to point out that if Lybia had not decided to disclose where their weapons were, then it would have been very difficult to find them.

Yet numbnuts, Michael Moore, is going to take issue with something that was very clear to anyone that took the time to listen to what the President said.

 

[deep]

will this do?

COMMENTARY

New Iraq Exit Strategy: Let's Bring Back Hussein
Well, why not? He's tanned, rested and ready.

By Bill Maher

April 18, 2004

"April is the cruelest month, mixing memory with desire" ? boy, that one holds up. The memory of Saddam Hussein's statues coming down a year ago, and now the mess that is Iraq this April. It was almost as if the Iraqis said, "All right, we'll give you a year, and then it gets ugly."

I mean, I have been supportive of the noble idea of trying to plant a democracy in the Middle East. I've had no patience with people who have no patience with the long haul that is "planting seeds of democracy." Seeds don't sprout overnight; they're not magic rocks or those sea monkeys that grow in a fish tank. But it is also possible that these particular seeds will not, at this time and on this land, ever grow, no matter what we do. If that becomes painfully apparent ? which could be very soon ? then we need a quick exit strategy, and that's where it gets knotty.

We can't just leave, because we have a bad reputation as overseas quitters already (see Afghanistan). And we can't win this militarily: I hope even the dimmest bulbs see that by now. (Bombing mosques always goes over well in that part of the world, by the way.) So what do we do?

Here's an idea that I know is going to ruffle some feathers, and I agree it's not ideal, but just consider for one moment: We bring back Hussein.

Let me finish ? yes, he would be nasty about it, like he always is, and brag how he defeated us again, but seriously, I think we can work with him now. Rumsfeld did before. It's just a matter of them getting back the nice vibe they had in the 1980s.

And honestly, he's tanned, rested and ready. He's had time to think, time to recharge his batteries. And speaking of charged batteries, no torture this time! We want Hussein the efficient administrator, not the brutal dictator.

Look, he's like Don Corleone now. He's lost sons: "Look how they massacred my boy ? this war stops now!" Are we all so smug that no one considers for a moment that maybe the guy gets it? He knows the job, he knows the people, he's been there. Think Joe Gibbs, and watch when the Redskins win it all this year. So we have a little egg on our face at the ceremony where two Marines have to lift Hussein's statue back up on the spot where they pulled it down.

It's not like we haven't been there with him before.


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Political satirist Bill Maher is host of HBO's "Real Time with Bill Maher."

 

[Dreadsox]

Gee, think this belongs in a Michael Moore Thread. I am really starting to think you take tremendous pleasure in posting things that are boarderline at best in threads.

 

[Dreadsox]

[Q]First, can we stop the Orwellian language and start using the proper names for things? Those are not ?contractors? in Iraq. They are not there to fix a roof or to pour concrete in a driveway. They are MERCENARIES and SOLDIERS OF FORTUNE. They are there for the money, and the money is very good if you live long enough to spend it. [/Q]

1st Michael, please show me where the President called them contractors? They are citizens who were hired to provide security for the companies that are working to rebuild Iraq. Without security, many of the good things that are being atttempted would fail. Still, you accuse the administration of Orwellian language, and I am confused as to how you have come to the conclusion that the President used such language.

 

[Scarletwine]

The news people call them private contractors and they are they just don't do rebuilding.

 

[MrsSpringsteen]

Wow, Bill Maher is so funny...

Satire, haha

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

mr. moore better tip-toe very lightly on this fahrenheit 911 thing... very very lightly. my rage over him picking this topic is already building to a peak, and all i've done is read the taglines and plot outlines... tip-toe very lightly mr. moore...

 

[Rono]

[Q]First, can we stop the Orwellian language and start using the proper names for things? Those are not ?contractors? in Iraq. They are not there to fix a roof or to pour concrete in a driveway. They are MERCENARIES and SOLDIERS OF FORTUNE. They are there for the money, and the money is very good if you live long enough to spend it. [/Q]

1st Michael, please show me where the President called them contractors? They are citizens who were hired to provide security for the companies that are working to rebuild Iraq. Without security, many of the good things that are being atttempted would fail. Still, you accuse the administration of Orwellian language, and I am confused as to how you have come to the conclusion that the President used such language.

That security personal could be a part of the problem in Iraq.

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Soldiers And Fortune

Who's the United States' major ally today in Iraq?

Hint: it may not be part of the "Coalition of the Willing." You might instead label them the "Brotherhood of the Extremely Well Paid": mercenaries working for private security firms in Iraq. Estimates of their number run from 5,000 to 15,000.

And while no one really knows how many there are, thousands more are due to join them.

At this extremely critical time, when ill-conceived military action can degenerate into disastrous religious outbursts, who is calling the shots? That question is only now beginning to draw some attention

http://www.veteransforcommonsense.org/newsArticle.asp?id=1699