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Old 02-19-2008, 05:05 PM   #286
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For the first time in my adult life

I have said before
that I expect to vote for the Democrat nominee

these Obamas may make me reconsider
Come on, Deep, for someone who uses hyperbole, irony, and other extremes to make a point surely you can recognise it when you see it...

Or is this post another post of yours that shouldn't be taken literally?
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time.com, a longer and slightly different version of the quote

"What we have learned over this year is that hope is making a comeback. It is making a comeback. And let me tell you something — for the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country. And not just because Barack has done well, but because I think people are hungry for change. And I have been desperate to see our country moving in that direction and just not feeling so alone in my frustration and disappointment. I’ve seen people who are hungry to be unified around some basic common issues, and it’s made me proud.”


Obama spokesman Bill Burton sends over a statement:

Of course Michelle is proud of her country, which is why she and Barack talk constantly about how their story wouldn't be possible in any other nation on Earth. What she meant is that she's really proud at this moment because for the first time in a long time, thousands of Americans who've never participated in politics before are coming out in record numbers to build a grassroots movement for change.



(CNN) — Tuesday morning seemed to bring the debut of yet another McCain-Obama flap – this time, Cindy McCain and Michelle Obama.

As she introduced her husband John McCain, the likely Republican nominee, at a campaign event, Cindy McCain told the crowd I “am proud of my country. I don’t know about you, if you heard those words earlier — I am very proud of my country.”

The comment seemed to be a response to a remark from Michelle Obama the day before. On Monday, the wife of Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama told a Wisconsin audience that “For the first time in my adult life, I am really proud of my country, because it feels like hope is making a comeback… not just because Barack has done well, but because I think people are hungry for change."

After Tuesday’s event, the McCains were asked if the Arizona senator’s wife had been responding to that comment. Cindy McCain did not directly answer the question, responding: “I just wanted to make the statement that I have and always will be proud of my country.”

On Monday, Obama spokesman Bill Burton released a statement in response to the controversy: “Of course Michelle is proud of her country, which is why she and Barack talk constantly about how their story wouldn't be possible in any other nation on Earth.

“What she meant is that she's really proud at this moment because for the first time in a long time, thousands of Americans who've never participated in politics before are coming out in record numbers to build a grassroots movement for change.”
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Old 02-19-2008, 09:46 PM   #288
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Let's cut Michelle and Barack some slack.

Tonight, Obama will pack the same venue where the Houston Rockets play (and the campaign will have to turn another 5000 away) while Clinton packs a high school in Ohio.

I pray for the moment when she concedes with dignity and grace.
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Let's cut Michelle and Barack some slack.
good idea

that has been the theme for most of this primary season

along with starry eyes
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these Obamas may make me reconsider
As you have reminded me a number of times, you have to remember the Supreme Court. Obama or Clinton would get that right. Your vote is needed.
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I pray for the moment when she concedes with dignity and grace.
faith precedes the miracle..
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What makes him attractive? He's DIFFERENT! That's what we need! Sure Hillary is a woman but she's Bill's wife, and part of the same old gang.
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I just watched her in an Ohio high school, struggling to keep her campaign alive

He packed an arena and people waited all day to see him.

We want something this poetic and huge, but all the "it's only rhetoric" people have not done their homework.

This is the first black editor of the Harvard Law Review. As Oprah and Toni Morrison reminded us, he's not just smart. He's wise.

Read his website. He has positions, and they are all intelligent and nuanced and entirely within the mainstream of American progressive political thought.
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good idea

that has been the theme for most of this primary season

along with starry eyes


if RFK came back to life and tapped you on the shoulder,

would you recognize him?
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Just a follow up on the mis-guided spin about what Michelle Obama said...I can't sit and watch these forums all day, sorry this is old news but...

I was listening to Thom Hartman on Air America this morning and they are talking about how the quote that Michelle Obama made was TOTALLY taken out of context. Somebody edited the audio of her on YOUTUBE which omits the very important word REALLY
from the "controversial" comment
"For the first time I am ____________ proud of my country"
If you insert the word REALLY it changes the entire statement.

This is what she really said:
"FOR THE FIRST TIME I AM REALLY PROUD OF MY COUNTRY"

On the video you can see her lips move when she says REALLY, it was obviously tampered with.
GEEZ.

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Just a follow up on the mis-guided spin about what Michelle Obama said...I can't sit and watch these forums all day, sorry this is old news but...

I was listening to Thom Hartman on Air America this morning and they are talking about how the quote that Michelle Obama made was TOTALLY taken out of context. Somebody edited the audio of her on YOUTUBE which omits the very important word REALLY
from the "controversial" comment
"For the first time I am ____________ proud of my country"
If you insert the word REALLY it changes the entire statement.

This is what she really said:
"FOR THE FIRST TIME I AM REALLY PROUD OF MY COUNTRY"

On the video you can see her lips move when she says REALLY, it was obviously tampered with.
GEEZ.

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She said it twice, though. Only once did she use the word "really."
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i can't believe that this is even being talked about.
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Old 02-20-2008, 06:13 PM   #298
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i can't believe that this is even being talked about.
You are right.. I should have just let it die...I almost didn't post it,
but I can't stand it when this blantant lie is being passed around like it's the truth.
Michelle and Barack are the epitome of the American dream, and ofcourse she loves this country. Good God.
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She said it twice, though. Only once did she use the word "really."
You're funny, you'll defend Rush and others for racist and sexists remarks saying "they're just words" "he mispoke", etc.

Yet you're getting all high and mighty about the word "really"?

You are as fair and balanced as Fox...
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It's ridiculous for sure, but why does it even matter? Should we take into consideration what the spouse might be like as a First Lady or the male equivalent?

Frankly, I'd rather vote for the candidate I prefer, and we get whichever spouse comes along with them.

I'm sure if we dug (and edited *cough*) enough, we could find something - worthy about McCain's wife, too.
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