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Old 10-14-2004, 07:31 AM   #31
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Well in that case is somebody is prank-phoned called, he\she should be pranked back, see how they like it!
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Old 10-14-2004, 07:34 AM   #32
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I bet you also advocate booting for making crank phone calls.
Well if you think Australian's punish too harshly, we don't even have Capital Punishment here, you yanks do! The Australian stereotypes are void!
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Old 10-14-2004, 07:38 AM   #33
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It's true, we also have some of the tightest gun regulation laws in the world and a supposedly conservative party that burns money just like Labor.
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Old 10-14-2004, 08:17 AM   #34
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Is this true?


Or just a load of often repeated crap?
Actually, it is true. Many areas of law today stem from principles found in Scripture.

But that was not the intention of BLS's post, but a nice diversion to take another crack at Christianity.
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Old 10-14-2004, 12:41 PM   #35
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Imprisoning them for a lifetime solves the problem too, you don't have to kill them as long as the government can't be blackmailed
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Old 10-14-2004, 12:55 PM   #36
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Perhaps we should let Lyndie Englund at 'em! That will teach 'em!

But really, what would be "just" punishment? Cattle prod to the testicles? The problem is, reasonable, non-sadistic people can't hurt truly vicious people without losing their own humanity. Allowing a person convicted of horrible crimes to have certain minor privileges simply means the rest of society has not become just as brutal

I am not advocating torture. What I mean is it isn't fair that a criminal gets to have certain privileges while they are serving their time. Some people commit evil, vicious crimes and they get to hang around and enjoy themselves. I am not saying they should suffer brutality, but prison shouldn't be a picnic for them.

I see capital punishment and how inmates should be treated as a very complex issue. Some prisoners would say prison was awful for them because they have limited freedoms, while others didn't mind being there because prison is the only place where they had a structured environment (having a curfew, mealtimes,etc.). Some criminals get so used to the prison environment that they can't handle being out in the real world. And they commit crimes deliberately just to go back in.

And criminals who repeatedly commit crimes even after they are let out after serving their sentence is another reason why I think capital punishment might be necessary. Some people cannot be rehabilitated and are completely out-of-control that the death penalty looks like a worthy sentence. (and this is not because they feel safe in a prison environment; they're simply far too mentally ill that they cannot be stopped and are a danger to society) I think the alternative to this would be to literally have those criminals spend the rest of their lives in prison, without parole. I don't understand why criminals are not serving their full sentence. If someone is given life, they should serve a life sentence, not twenty years and several years parole.
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Old 10-14-2004, 01:14 PM   #37
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The Punishment should fit the crime.
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I think this is a sick perversion of God's word.

100% against!!!
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Old 10-14-2004, 03:19 PM   #39
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Against except very rare cases. For example, Timothy McVeigh deserved to die. Osama bin Laden would deserve to die. I know I'm basing it on body count, so be it.

But generally against because there are so many problems with the system. I would highly recommend reading up on the Anthony Porter case. He was 50 hours away from being executed and received a reprieve because the court did not think he was smart enough to understand what was happening to him. The reprieve gave more time to David Protess and a class of journalism students and Northwestern University to investigate the case. They not only proved Porter was not guilty but the found the person who was guilty of the double murder and had him confess on video tape to the crime. A class of college students got Anthony Porter off when his lawyer couldn't. A college class saved Porter from death.

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Two days later, Porter was released from prison on a recognizance bond and the murder charges against him were officially dropped the next month. Porter thus became the tenth person sentenced to death in Illinois under the present capital punishment law to be released based on innocence.
The cae eventually led to then Gov. George Ryan to outlaw the death penalty in Illinois. The Chicago Tribune ran a great package a few years ago about the death penalty that I would also recommend as required reading.

The system needs to be overhauled.
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I don't believe in it. Death is too good for the types of animals out there.

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i'm 100% against it. thank god we got rid of it long ago here in Canada. good movie to watch about this "Dead Man Walking" with sean penn and susan surandon.
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I believe in what the Bible says about it, so I believe in it.

An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.
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I believe in what the Bible says about it, so I believe in it.

An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.
So is Jesus a liar?
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Old 10-14-2004, 04:39 PM   #44
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I think it depends on the crime. I believe there are some people who deserve to die. Such as OBL who have committed terrible crimes. When someone committs murder or some other horrible crime, they are making that choice so they should suffer the consequences of their choice.
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So is Jesus a liar?
Why would that make Jesus a liar?
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