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Old 03-16-2008, 10:16 PM   #76
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I really should of explained my case but you shouldnt have jumped to conclusions as i find nothing wrong with my posts but if thats the way you interrupted them thats my fault for not explaining.
Well, to bring that up without full explanation in a discussion about a case of sexual harrassment, I'd say it perhaps was an ... unfortunate place to do so.

But mainly, I don't care to read about women shoving bottles up their yahoos when I come to FYM.

(But thanks for taking the time to explain - I have to say that is indeed pretty disgusting.)
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holy cow.

i take a deliberate 2 day vacation from FYM -- and life, in general -- and this is what i miss?

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What I would like to know, is what ever happened to the sick perpetrator? Is he locked up? Is he free? Is he on some plane tonight?
Well I doubt he's locked up. I would think a fine would be in order, but not jail time.

On a side note, at the Texas state fair, some years ago I walked into a public restroom where a man was masturbating at one of the urinals while looking at patrons using the urinals next to his. As I walked out I overheard a man explaining the scenario to a cop, but what he failed to explain(or notice) was the man was obviously mentally retarded. A few minutes later the man was taken out in cuffs. I thought the cuffs were a little inappropriate given the circumstance...

Now this man in the story may not have been mentally retarded, but he obviously has some psychological issues.
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i take a deliberate 2 day vacation from FYM -- and life, in general -- and this is what i miss?
Uh ... welcome back?

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But mainly, I don't care to read about women shoving bottles up their yahoos when I come to FYM.

Yes my apologies but it was relevant to the question asked, but im sure you don't come to FYM to read about passengers being violated like in the case presented in the first post either.
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Well I doubt he's locked up. I would think a fine would be in order, but not jail time.
I disagree.
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I disagree.
What would you jail him for?
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What strikes me most from reading the article posted in the initial post is how the woman reacted when she woke up. I realise she was probably a bit groggy and I'm not blaming her for what happened, but she acted as if she had something to be ashamed of, instead of being outraged and saying (very loudly) something on the lines of "Uh! What the fuck are you doing? Get away from me, you filthy creep!"

I guess to me some guy you don't know sitting right next to you, staring at you while jacking off on you is a very good reason to make one hell of a commotion and I wonder why she didn't feel she could do that. I can't see a guy curling up and crying if the same thing happened to him, so I wonder if we are still not doing a great job of teaching women to be assertive.
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What would you jail him for?
Sexual assault. He came in her hair while she was sleeping, fer chrissakes. If that doesn't warrant some jail time, what does?
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but she acted as if she had something to be ashamed of, instead of being outraged and saying (very loudly) something on the lines of "Uh! What the fuck are you doing? Get away from me, you filthy creep!"
Easy to say when it isn't you. We have no idea what kind of person she is, and what else may have happened to her in her life.
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Doesn't strike me as a mere fine either.
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Easy to say when it isn't you. We have no idea what kind of person she is, and what else may have happened to her in her life.
Well of course I never considered that possibility.
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Well, I'm just being realistic. Most sexual offenses that don't involve touching or serious contact don't get jail time.

And I'm not sure what issues this man has, but I'd venture to say he has some mental issues and jail time isn't the answer. This doesn't sound like an issue of power like rape, or someone who meant to cause harm, it sounds like someone who has serious mental issues regarding boundaries... But we really don't know.

I've had four instances in my life that would have fallen into the legal definition of sexual assault. None that I've filed charges on, but one that the state filed charges. All involving older drunken women. Women that feel they have the right to grab my crotch or try and place their hands in my pants, etc... Now I've had them removed from the bar, but never did I feel like they deserve jail time. The one instance that the state filed charges was a woman who felt like it was OK to reach her hand down my jeans while I was playing a show. She was immediately taken off stage and cops were called. She paid a fine.

I understand this woman was violated, I'm just not sure jail time is what this man needs. I think he needs some psychiatric help.

Whereas my assaultants needed rehab.
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Well, that all depends on the jurisdiction in question because different states treat mental disorder defences very differently. If he doesn't meet the legal definition, he'll end up in jail (where he'll be treated).

I spent about a year writing a publication on this, in many ways it is time of my life I'll never get back.
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All involving older drunken women. Women that feel they have the right to grab my crotch or try and place their hands in my pants, etc...
Sounds like you're "cougar" bait.
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