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Old 12-28-2005, 02:07 AM   #16
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I would much rather see the money that would be spent on Kyoto to go towards getting rid of extreme poverty, something that in all likelihood would be a much greater thing for humanity.

But eh, I guess that's why I don't make the decisions.
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I would much rather see the money that would be spent on Kyoto to go towards getting rid of extreme poverty, something that in all likelihood would be a much greater thing for humanity.

But eh, I guess that's why I don't make the decisions.
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Old 12-28-2005, 07:43 AM   #18
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Ehm, the kyoto is in place since february 2005 so how can we already know that it will work out ?


Anyway, according this report, the Netherlands will (probably) meet the target. It is still to little but not to late.

http://www.ecn.nl/corp/press/p051020.en.html
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Ehm, the kyoto is in place since february 2005 so how can we already know that it will work out ?


Anyway, according this report, the Netherlands will (probably) meet the target. It is still to little but not to late.

http://www.ecn.nl/corp/press/p051020.en.html
Kyoto was signed in 1999. Countries have had 5 years to get ready for it.
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I would much rather see the money that would be spent on Kyoto to go towards getting rid of extreme poverty, something that in all likelihood would be a much greater thing for humanity.
This is an excellent point. We know we have poverty.
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If extreme poverty were eradicated, would it not follow that the increased wealth and economy would then easily support emission reductions without the vast economic problems such a reduction would cause now?

I'm just running off on a train of thought here. But it makes sense to me.
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And these countries wouldn't need to use their natural resources in an inneficient manner, environmental protections could function better and habitats could be protected. And the flow on effect on population growth, global trade and global peace are all distinct possibilities.

Kyoto will not work in stopping or even altering by more than a fraction of a degree climate change over the next century. We are coming out of a little ice age so there is change there already, and the reductions in emissions are to slight - that is why Kyoto is the entry level deal, that once finished would lead to a harsher regime of emission standards for signatory nations.
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The Iron Horse wrote:

"The moon sky is still black tonight and the sky tomorrow will be blue."

interesting comment
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