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Old 10-04-2004, 04:56 PM   #1
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What do you anticipate from the upcoming presidential debates?

The latest CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll presents President Bush and Senator Kerry in a virtual tie for votes. With two more presidential debates and one vice-presidential debate remaining, the momentum clearly looks to be in Kerry’s corner. Debate two will be in a town hall format with live questions being posed. This format looks to be more favourable for Kerry than Bush because of the outspoken nature of Bush’s criticizers. However, the debate rules call for only soft Kerry supporters and soft Bush supporters to be present. What this means is unclear. Kerry has a questionable senate record to explain, but Bush has failed presidential records in health care, job growth, the war in Iraq, and international affairs to explain. Kerry’s faults as a senator are relative, but Bush’s failures as a president are provable. Bush’s administration has been working hard to prevent generic, affordable Canadian and British drugs from entering the United States. Bush will be the first president since the Great Depression to have a net loss in job growth. Despite claims that the situation in Iraq is improving, violence only continues to expand, and today US forces occupy less of Iraq than they did after the fall of Saddam Hussein. Globally, the reputation of the United States has been greatly diminished. Opponents to the “Bush doctrine” include France, Germany, Russia and China. Ironically, even coalition forces are questioning Bush’s logic. Tony Blair, prime minister of Britain, while cooperating with Bush in the Iraq war, has publicly questioned the president’s stubbornness in how the war should be fought. Public opinion polls in England and Australia, the two most powerful of America’s allies in Iraq, show general disapproval of the war. Domestically, polls show similar attitudes in the United States. An ally at the beginning of the war, the Philippines has since existed Iraq, and current ally Poland plans to exist in 2005. Canada, traditionally considered to be “the 51st state of America”, does not support the war and has witnessed an increase of anti-American sentiments since Bush became president. The economic policies of Bush’s administration have directly effected the lumber, beef, steel and pharmaceutical industries of Canada. In Quebec, the heart of French Canada, support for President Bush is at 11%, while in Ontario, the industrial and financial heart of Canada, support is at 19%. The third presidential debate will focus on domestic issues, which political pundits claim to be Bush’s greatest liability. If anyone remembers the Republican National Convention, they will recall how Dick Cheney came across as an angry old man. Edwards can use Cheney’s volatility to his advantage in the vice-presidential debate. A reference to Halliburton will be sure to upset the less than timid Dick.

http://edition.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLIT...oll/index.html

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...s&sid=81587690
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...Cheney offered some crass advice.

"Fuck yourself," said the man who is a heartbeat from the presidency.
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When running for president the first time, a clip exists that has Bush call a reporter "a major league asshole!"
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Bush didn't know he was close to a mike, if I remember correctly. The whole thing was pretty embarrassing to him. Anyway, domestic policy is where the public likes Kerry more than they do Bush. Even John McCain wants to make it legal to import drugs from Canada. There is one drug that they are charging as much as $78 a bottle for in the U.S. that costs $17 to order it from Canada. By the same token, the public expectations game has completely changed from the first debate. Now people will expect Kerry to win. If he doesn't do this decisively it may help Bush if Bush has a better showing than he did in the first debate.
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Republicans in general are against the importation of cheaper Canadian and British drugs. I think it is a shame. If John McCain was to drop party loyalty, he'd be the most respectable politician in the United States! He hates Bush, yet he supports him. He's friends with Kerry, yet does not endore him. Come on!

And what's the deal with Bob Dole? I thought he died?
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Republicans in general are against the importation of cheaper Canadian and British drugs. I think it is a shame. If John McCain was to drop party loyalty, he'd be the most respectable politician in the United States! He hates Bush, yet he supports him. He's friends with Kerry, yet does not endore him. Come on!

And what's the deal with Bob Dole? I thought he died?
I agree with that bit about McCain.

As for the debates, I think they'll be tough because Bush will learn from his mistakes. He'll be better prepared, more relaxed, and he does well in town hall settings. It'll be interesting.

But i'm looking forward to 90 minutes with john edwards!!
.......it'll all be about the substance of course.........
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Why is everyone's attraction spent on John Edwards? Oh, wait...

Bush and live questions? Come on. I don't think he'll fare well because questions to him will have a deeper social relevance than questions to John Kerry. If one negative question is asked, I can see Bush getting flustered. He likes things to occur his way, and only his way. So far, on the campaign trail, Bush has required all persons attending his speeches to sign a contractual agreement stressing no criticism from the audience. Or, put more plainly, no democrats, no hippies, no non-Republican. Also, if Bush flusters on an important question, I think the crowd will let him know. After all, crowd participation is encouraged!
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As for the debates, I think they'll be tough because Bush will learn from his mistakes.
Can Bush learn from his mistakes?

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Ok let me put it this way:
His aides will force him to be more relaxed and not pissed.
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Ok let me put it this way:
His aides will force him to be more relaxed and not pissed.
Gothca'!

Is Edwards that attractive? He's no Perot!
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The President will have to go on the attack. Foreign policy was supposed to be the issue that he could really "get" Kerry on. At the very least I think the President missed an opportunity to do that. Now we go to debate themes where Kerry is polling much better than he is in Iraq and terror issues.
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The latest GALLUP poll shows that voters prefer:

Bush on Iraq!

51% for Bush 44% for Kerry

Bush on Terrorism!

56% for Bush 39% for Kerry

Bush on who is the strongest leader!

56% for Bush 37% for Kerry
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The latest GALLUP poll shows that voters prefer:

Bush on Iraq!

51% for Bush 44% for Kerry

Bush on Terrorism!

56% for Bush 39% for Kerry

Bush on who is the strongest leader!

56% for Bush 37% for Kerry
The Gallup fetish strikes again!!

Do you realize that their polling methods are extremely sketchy? They VASTLY overweight Republicans, and they're clearly slanted Republican (their CEO is a major GOP contributor).
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Mr. Gallup is no longer running the Gallup poll. I suppose ABC is run by a major GOP contributor since they still have the President up 5 points after the debate. I'd also like someone to point out a legitimate poll that has Bush behind on any of those three issues. Bush has a double digit lead in most of them and is ahead in all of them that I have seen.
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