What did they expect to happen? (about chaos in Iraq)

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The US and UK had been planning this attack on Iraq for a long time. They'd had troops in the region for many months before the bombing started. They'd evidently put a lot of thought into the military operation.

So why on earth did they not put so much thought into what would happen once Saddam's regime fell?

It was never in doubt that the US/UK would win this war. The US has a military larger than it's next 15 competitors, and Iraq has been devastated by 12 years of sanctions. Of course the US/UK would win! They knew that from the first day of planning this war. So why didn't they think about what would come after?

Why didn't they think about how to protect hospitals and schools which are being looted? Why didn't they think about how to protect Iraq's museums which have 7000 years of Iraqi history. Why didn't they have any kind of plan to keep the Iraqi people safe once Saddam was gone.

If the US/UK could protect oil fields in Southern Iraq (and let's not forget, that was one of their first actions when the war began) then they can protect hospitals from being looted and they can stop Iraq's museums being looted.
 
Of course I can understand that ppl are pushing the envelope after a dictatorship like Saddams was.
But this is not really a justification for despoiling hospitals, museums and schools. They are robbing themselves.

The Britisch troops in Basra behaved exemplarly compared to the US troops in Bagdad. Obviously the destruction of the rest of Iraq's infra structure is on behalf for the USA, cause then it is necessary to set Iraq under US administration, at least for a while.

And the evidently US -support for ACHMAD CHALABI makes me worry for the future of Iraq, please have in mind that he is previously convicted in Jordania for corruption and that he does'nt have a "basemant" in Iraq.
 
Well, whatever it is, I heard that the US is trying to control it as best they can.

Looting eased in Baghdad with the return of the little headaches of everyday life - traffic jams.

US helicopters appeared in the skies over Baghdad looking for looters and in Basra local police officers appeared on the street again.

Iraqi police are working with US Marines to set up joint patrols in the Iraqi capital, which will start in a day or two.

People felt secure enough to come out of their homes and drive around, causing the late morning traffic jams so common to Baghdad life. Buses started running in the centre of town.

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=396752

foray
 
well i think when the Berlin Wall fell for the first few days/weeks this prolly happened as well.

Remeber ppl 25 years these ppl have been caged up and living under fear..
I think the press is trying to exploit this a bit, things well eventually settle down.
I think these are growing pains of a new nation..

DB9
 
diamond said:
well i think when the Berlin Wall fell for the first few days/weeks this prolly happened as well.

Remeber ppl 25 years these ppl have been caged up and living under fear..
I think the press is trying to exploit this a bit, things well eventually settle down.
I think these are growing pains of a new nation..

DB9



Diamond maybe there is someone who can enlighten us further


but I don't recall hearing of much looting after the berlin wall came down.




and Tarik.....I'd at least wait till all the fighting subsides in bagdhad there are still pckets of resistance whereas basra has been under siege longer.


Right now....we're in it...I'm willing to wait and see the results before passing judgement.



People should also understand that the responsibility of the iraqi ppl is important too


as you put it they are robbing themselves.
 
I think I'll go steal some ancient paintings from the Getty Museum. After all, I'll only be robbing myself, so no biggie. Hell, while I'm at it, I'm going to go swipe some chicken from the market down the street. Not to worry though, I'm only robbing myself.
 
I don't buy this comparison with the Berlin Wall, anyway. One thing that made all of that stuff in Central and Eastern Europe so amazing is that it was all done with very little bloodshed. The dictators resigned. That's why Czechoslovakia's revolution was called the "Velvet Revolution". A little confrontation to begin with, but then a bloodless revolution. This sure as heck didn't happen in Iraq. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy if the Iraqis are happy. I just don't think they're particularly happy with this looting and I'm glad security is improving to the point where their biggest headache is a traffic jam. I'm sure they'll take that considering all the crud they've put up with and been through.
 
In Iraq itself, art experts and ordinary demonstrators made clear they were far angrier at President George Bush than they were at the looters, noting that the only building US forces seemed genuinely interested in protecting was the Ministry of Oil.


Published on Monday, April 14, 2003 by the lndependent/UK
US Blamed for Failure to Stop Sacking of Museum
by Andrew Gumbel in Los Angeles and David Keys, Archaeology Correspondent

The United States was fiercely criticized around the world yesterday for its failure to protect Baghdad's Iraq National Museum where, under the noses of US troops, looters stole or destroyed priceless artifacts up to 7,000 years old.



In Iraq itself, art experts and ordinary demonstrators made clear they were far angrier at President George Bush than they were at the looters, noting that the only building US forces seemed genuinely interested in protecting was the Ministry of Oil.


Not a single pot or display case remained intact, according to witnesses, after a 48-hour rampage at the museum ? perhaps the world's greatest repository of Mesopotamian culture. US forces intervened only once, for half an hour, before leaving and allowing the looters to continue.

Archaeologists, poets, cultural historians and international legal experts, including many in America itself, accused Washington of violating the 1954 Hague Convention on the protection of artistic treasures in wartime.

British experts were distraught at the loss. "This is a terrible tragedy. Iraq is the cradle of civilization and this was a museum which contained a large portion of the world's cultural heritage. The British Museum stands ready to help our Iraqi colleagues in whatever way we can," Dr John Curtis said. He is keeper of the Department of the Ancient Near East at the British Museum, which holds an important collection of Mesopotamian treasures.

Dr Jeremy Black a specialist on ancient Iraq at Oxford University, said: "What has befallen Baghdad and Mosul museums was foreseen by archaeologists worldwide. Meetings were even held with the American military before the war to warn of the extreme likelihood of looting should an invasion occur.

"Sadly, however, the occupying forces failed to implement in practical terms the measures to protect Iraq's and the world's cultural heritage. US and British forces must now act immediately to safeguard what remains in the museums and at key archaeological sites."

A Chicago law professor, Patty Gerstenblith of the DePaul School, said the rampage was "completely inexcusable and avoidable".

In Iraq itself, art experts and ordinary demonstrators made clear they were far angrier at President George Bush than they were at the looters, noting that the only building US forces seemed genuinely interested in protecting was the Ministry of Oil.


US Marines moved quickly to protect the Iraqi oil ministry in Baghdad, surrounding the complex with razor-sharp barbed wire. US-controlled Iraq should return to the oil market within months. (AFP/EPA/Christophe Simon)

One Iraqi archaeologist, Raid Abdul Ridhar Muhammad, told The New York Times: "If a country's civilization is looted, as ours has been here, its history ends. Please tell this to President Bush. Please remind him that he promised to liberate the Iraqi people, but that this is not a liberation, this is a humiliation."

Dr Eleanor Robson, a member of the council of the British School of Archaeology in Iraq, said: "The looting of the Iraq Museum is on a par with blowing up Stonehenge or ransacking the Bodleian Library. For world culture, it is a global catastrophe." Among the many treasures that have vanished, perhaps for ever, are a solid gold harp from the Sumerian era, the sculptured head of a woman from the Sumerian city of Uruk, a Ram in the Thicket statue from Ur, stone carvings, gold jewelry, tapestry fragments, ivory figurines of goddesses, friezes of soldiers, ceramic jars and urns.

The museum held the tablets with Hammurabi's Code, one of the world's earliest legal documents, early texts describing the epic of Gilgamesh and mathematical treatises that reveal a knowledge of Pythagorean geometry 1,500 years before Pythagoras.

Some of the treasures might have been removed from the museum before the war for safekeeping, but there is no indication of where they could be. Saddam Hussein may have taken some artifacts for display in his private residences.

Curators said the looters came in two categories ? the angry and the poor, most of them Shias, who were bent largely on destruction and grabbing whatever they could to earn some money; and more discriminating, middle-class people who knew exactly what they were looking for. Some of the more famous pieces may be too easily recognizable to be sold on the international market, leading some experts to fear they will be destroyed.

Although the museum is only one of hundreds of buildings to fall prey to looters, its status as one of the most important repositories of ancient civilization is likely to inflame particular resentment towards the Americans, in the Arab world and beyond.

Several commentators are already starting to see more sinister motives in the US troops' neglect. Professor Giovanni Bergamini, curator of the Egyptian museum in Turin, said: "I don't know ... Perhaps it was only fathomless ignorance." He added: "But that's quite bad enough in itself."


Parts of a beheaded sculpture lies among rubble after a mob of looters ransacked and looted Iraq's largest archeological museum in Baghdad(AFP/Patrick Baz)

THE LIKELY FATE OF THE STOLEN ANTIQUITIES

The antiquities being looted in Iraq fall into two different categories.

In terms of serious money ? up to several million pounds per item ? the more internationally famous statues, bas-reliefs, early manuscripts and groups of ivories are the more difficult, though lucrative, items to smuggle. Worldwide there are probably only a few hundred potential buyers for the more well-known material.

Such items might include the celebrated Sumerian stone statue of Dudu, the Prime Minister to the royal court of Lagash, dating back to 2600BC, or the 2300BC image of the god Abu and his consort. These would have to be sold in great secrecy. The larger objects are in danger of being deliberately damaged and then made unrecognizable to make it more difficult for police and others to trace them.

In terms of pure volume of illicit traffic, the smaller, often unpublished items such as coins, cylinder seals, cuneiform tablets, pottery, figurines, flint tools and bronze weapons are likely to dominate sectors of the antiquities market. They will probably end up at the art markets of Paris, via Jordan, Israel, and Switzerland, New York, London and Tokyo.

Their value, in total, could quite conceivably run to billions of pounds ? with the profits lining the pockets of the more unscrupulous of the European and North American-based dealers. Somewhere between Switzerland and antique shops in Britain and elsewhere, all knowledge of an object's Iraqi provenance will be lost.

The museum's computer system, with the inventory of its contents, is understood to have been smashed ? but whether the hard disks have been damaged is not yet
 
Thanks for posting the article, deep. It's really shocking to hear what's happening to Iraq's national treasures. :sad:

I know lots of people suggested that the looting is eventually subsiding (it'll have to: there'll be nothing left to loot soon!) but my point was that it seems there was a complete lack of planning before this war started. The US and UK knew this would happen and yet they completely failed to prepare for it. And I really do find it disgusting that they can find people to protect Iraqi oil wells, but claim they aren't able to protect hospitals and museums with thousands of years of Iraq's heritage. I think what's happened in Iraq in the last week will be remembered by Iraqis for a long time and has caused a lot of resentment towards the US and UK.
 
FizzingWhizzbees said:
Thanks for posting the article, deep. It's really shocking to hear what's happening to Iraq's national treasures. :sad:

I know lots of people suggested that the looting is eventually subsiding (it'll have to: there'll be nothing left to loot soon!) but my point was that it seems there was a complete lack of planning before this war started. The US and UK knew this would happen and yet they completely failed to prepare for it. And I really do find it disgusting that they can find people to protect Iraqi oil wells, but claim they aren't able to protect hospitals and museums with thousands of years of Iraq's heritage. I think what's happened in Iraq in the last week will be remembered by Iraqis for a long time and has caused a lot of resentment towards the US and UK.

I agree. Why did they protect the oil wells but not hospitals and this museum? I can't believe the things that got ripped off. I saw an Iraqi history professor on the news yesterday in tears. I don't blame him. This hurts big time. It's like having your birthplace ripped off. :sad: :sad: :mad: :censored: :scream:
 
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Our cultural heritage is destroyed, why did you do that? why? why?.."

Nabhal Amin, second director or the archaeological national museum in Baghdad. after looters stole and destroyed about 170 000 peaces of their collection.

freedom is something messy, free people are free to do mistakes, crimes and other evil things "

Donald Rumsfeld, US-Secretary of Defense, to the same Subject

sorry for retranslating it from german, if somone could post the original Rumsfeld quote? ... i'd be glad to read it.

:(
 
Klaus said:




sorry for retranslating it from german, if somone could post the original Rumsfeld quote? ... i'd be glad to read it.

:(

Klaus, that basically is what Rumsfeld said. It was complete, total rationalization. I'm mad as hell. :madspit: :mad: :censored: :censored: :scream: :scream:
 
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I find this thread ludicrous!

Do you realize that there were 55 people killed, and millions and millions in damage and looting after the Rodney King beating in LA!

That's half of what we lost in Iraq!

Come on people!

Mark
 
The Anti-War crowd has to find something to pick on after their predictions for the war were proved totally wrong. Nation Building is a difficult process and I don't recall hearing that this was supposed to be easy from either side.

Oh and as to the war, it was a major undertaking to defeat a military force of 430,000 Iraqi's and cause so little damage to the country. Many people will never understand or appreciate that amazing and incredible job US and British soldiers have done.

Most US troops are not stationed in or guarding oil wells. The oil wells are out in the desert away from population centers. Their not irrelevent. They represent the wealth that is going to build more hospitals and help provide Iraqi's with the best standard of living they have ever experienced.
 
What utter nonsense. In fact, the speedy fall of Baghdad proves the antiwar movement was dead right. The whole pretext for our unilateral charge into Iraq was that the American people were in imminent danger from Hussein and his mighty war machine. Well, it turns out that, far from being on the verge of destroying Western civilization, Hussein and his 21st century Nazis couldn't even muster a halfhearted defense of their own capital.

The hawks' cakewalk disproves their own dire warnings. They can't have it both ways.


Victory Aside, the Invasion Was a Bad Idea




By Arianna Huffington

April 16, 2003

Arianna Huffington writes a syndicated column.

The Bible tells us that pride goeth before the fall. In Iraq, it cameth right after it.

From the moment that statue of Saddam Hussein hit the ground, the mood around the Rumsfeld campfire has been all high-fives, I-told-you-sos and endless prattling about how the speedy fall of Baghdad is proof that those who opposed the invasion of Iraq were dead wrong.

What utter nonsense. In fact, the speedy fall of Baghdad proves the antiwar movement was dead right. The whole pretext for our unilateral charge into Iraq was that the American people were in imminent danger from Hussein and his mighty war machine. Well, it turns out that, far from being on the verge of destroying Western civilization, Hussein and his 21st century Nazis couldn't even muster a halfhearted defense of their own capital.

The hawks' cakewalk disproves their own dire warnings. They can't have it both ways.

The invasion has proved wildly successful in one other regard: It has unified most of the world -- especially the Arab world -- against us. Back in 1991, more than half a dozen Arab nations were part of our Desert Storm coalition. Operation Iraqi Freedom's "coalition of the willing" had zero. Not even the polygamous potentates of Kuwait -- whose butts we saved last time out and who were most threatened by whatever threat Iraq still presented -- would join us. And substituting Bulgaria and Tonga for Egypt and Oman is just not going to cut it when it comes to winning hearts and minds on the Arab street.

Almost everything about the invasion -- from the go-it-alone buildup to the mayhem the fall of Hussein has unleashed -- has played right into the hands of those intent on demonizing and destroying our country.

The antiwar movement did not oppose the war out of fear that the United States was going to lose. It was the Bush administration's pathological and frantic obsession with an immediate, damn-the-consequences invasion that fueled the protests.

And please don't point to jubilant Iraqis dancing in the streets to validate the case for "preemptive liberation." You'd be doing the Baghdad Bugaloo too if the murderous tyrant who'd been eating off golden plates while your family starved finally got what was coming to him. It in no way proves that running roughshod over international law and pouring Iraqi oil -- now brought to you by the good folks at Halliburton -- onto the flames of anti-American hatred was a good idea. It wasn't before the war, and it isn't now.

The unintended consequences have barely begun to unfold. And the idea that our slam dunk of Hussein actually proves the White House was right is particularly dangerous because it encourages the Wolfowitzes and the Perles and the Cheneys to argue that we should be invading Syria or Iran or North Korea or Cuba as soon as we catch our breath.

It's important to remember that the Arab world has seen a very different war than we have. They are seeing babies with limbs blown off, children wailing beside their dead mothers, Arab journalists killed by American tanks and bombers, mosques being obliterated, holy men killed and dragged through the streets. They are seeing American forces leaving behind a wake of destruction, looting, hunger, humiliation and chaos.

Ari Fleischer is also sending out the wrong message when he claims that the administration can't do anything to keep Christian missionaries -- including those who have described the Islamic prophet Muhammad as a "demon-possessed pedophile" -- from going on a holy crusade to Baghdad. If there is one thing that could bring Sunnis and Shiites together, it's the common hatred of evangelical zealots who denigrate their prophet.

And it doesn't help to have the American media referring to Jay Garner, the retired general overseeing the rebuilding of Iraq, as "viceroy." If you open your dictionary, you'll see that term means "one who rules in the name of a sovereign, with regal authority; who serves as the king's substitute." It reeks of colonial imperialism. Why not just call him Head Bwana? Or Garner of Arabia?

The role that shame and humiliation have played in shaping world history is considerable, but it is something the Bush team seems utterly clueless about. Which is why the antiwar movement must be stalwart in its refusal to be silenced or browbeaten by the gloating "I told you so" chorus on the right. On the contrary, it needs to make sure that the doctrine of preemptive invasion is forever buried in the sands of Iraq.
 
MadelynIris:

You can't call the destrucion of the cultural goods in $, they were unique, and some Islamic people might have given their life to protect the oldest Koran scripts.

I think we rushed too fast in this war, did ignore the side effects and gave diplomacy no chance to save us from some ugly "side effects" of this war.

I'm unsure how long we remember this war here, after a possible war against Syria and Iran we might not (or less) be interested at all in it, like today in the problems of Afghanistan.
But I'm sure we can read about the destruction of this old coran verses in 500 years and people will remember that even 100 regime-changes later.

I was allways convinced that the US would win this war quickly, i'm glad the US military did its best to prevent civil people by using so called smart bombs, everyone who wasn't blind knew that there would be no zero colateral damage. But even the best military can't fix what politics above scres up.

Klaus
 
MadelynIris, I'm not sure why you posted what you did. Surely you can see that things that happen in this world are on a scale, and really anything can be compared in those terms to another, but each is still just as significant?
I dont really see the point in approaching something to give examples of what is worse. This IS terrible.
 
You're right, Angela. No one can take away the fact that this is a disaster by comparing it to other situations. What got ripped off in Baghdad? Stuff related to the invention in Mesopotamia of the way we tell time. Every time you look at a watch or clock, you're looking at something that was invented in Mesopotamia. We're using another Mesopotamian invention, writing, to communicate. They had the first alphabet. They also had the first calendar. These things related to the fact that Iraq, or Mesopotamia, is the cradle of *our* civilization. It's not someone else's heritage. It's yours and mine. This is a monstrous crime against civilization. Things related to these inventions are gone forever. A crime is a crime. This sucks big time. :madspit: :mad: :censored: :censored: :scream: :scream:
 
US Culture Advisers Resign Over Iraq Museum Looting
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By Niala Boodhoo

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Two cultural advisers to the Bush administration have resigned in protest over the failure of U.S. forces to prevent the wholesale looting of priceless treasures from Baghdad's antiquities museum. Martin Sullivan, who chaired the President's Advisory Committee on Cultural Property for eight years, and panel member Gary Vikan said they resigned because the U.S. military had had advance warning of the danger to Iraq (news - web sites)'s historical treasures.


"We certainly know the value of oil but we certainly don't know the value of historical artifacts," Vikan, director of the Walters Art Gallery in Baltimore, told Reuters on Thursday.


At the start of the U.S.-led campaign against Iraq, military forces quickly secured valuable oil fields.


Baghdad's museums, galleries and libraries are empty shells, destroyed in a wave of looting that erupted as U.S.-led forces ended Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s rule last week, although antiquities experts have said they were given assurances months ago from U.S. military planners that Iraq's historic artifacts and sites would be protected by occupying forces.


"It didn't have to happen," Sullivan told Reuters. "In a pre-emptive war that's the kind of thing you should have planned for." Sullivan sent his letter of resignation earlier this week.


The Iraqi National Museum held rare artifacts documenting the development of mankind in ancient Mesopotamia, one of the world's earliest civilizations. Among the museum collection were more than 80,000 cuneiform tablets, some of which had yet to be translated.


Professional art thieves may have been behind some of the looting, said leading archeologists gathered in Paris on Thursday to seek ways to rescue Iraq's cultural heritage.


Among the priceless treasures missing are the 5,000-year-old Vase of Uruk and the Harp of Ur. The bronze Statue of Basitki from the Akkadian kingdom is also gone, somehow hauled out of the museum despite its huge weight.


The White House repeated on Thursday that the looting was unfortunate but the U.S. military had worked hard to preserve the infrastructure of Iraq.


"It is unfortunate that there was looting and damage done to the museum and we have offered rewards, as Secretary Rumsfeld has said, for individuals who may have taken items from the museum to bring those back," White House spokeswoman Claire Buchan said in Crawford, Texas, where President Bush (news - web sites) is spending a long Easter break.


FBI (news - web sites) Director Robert Mueller added that the bureau was sending agents to Iraq to assist with criminal investigations and had issued Interpol alerts to all member nations regarding the potential sale of stolen artifacts.


"We recognize the importance of these treasures to the Iraqi people and as well to the world as a whole," Mueller said. "And we are firmly committed to doing whatever we can in order to secure the return of these treasures to the people of Iraq."


The president appoints the 11-member advisory committee, which works through the State Department to advise the executive office on the 1970 UNESCO (news - web sites) Convention on international protection of cultural objects.
 
Screaming Flower said:
#"We certainly know the value of oil but we certainly don't know the value of historical artifacts," Vikan, director of the Walters Art Gallery in Baltimore, told Reuters on Thursday.

At the start of the U.S.-led campaign against Iraq, military forces quickly secured valuable oil fields.

Baghdad's museums, galleries and libraries are empty shells, destroyed in a wave of looting that erupted as U.S.-led forces ended Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s rule last week, although antiquities experts have said they were given assurances months ago from U.S. military planners that Iraq's historic artifacts and sites would be protected by occupying forces.

"It didn't have to happen," Sullivan told Reuters. "In a pre-emptive war that's the kind of thing you should have planned for." Sullivan sent his letter of resignation earlier this week.


I think he makes some excellent points. All of this could have been prevented, which is why it's so heartbreaking to see it happening when it could have been so easily prevented. Seriously...the military planners could get all ready to secure oil fields but they couldn't spare a few people to protect museums full of priceless items? It just shows where people's priorities lie. :(
 
US experts resign over Iraq looting

Three White House cultural advisers have resigned in protest at the failure of US forces to prevent the looting of Iraq's national museum - home to artefacts dating back 10,000 years.
Priceless statues, manuscripts and other treasures were taken away in a wave of lawlessness following the collapse of the government of Saddam Hussein in Baghdad last week.

"It didn't have to happen", Martin Sullivan - who chaired the President's Advisory Committee on Cultural Property for eight years - told Reuters news agency.


The tragedy was not prevented, due to our nation's inaction
Martin Sullivan
committee chairman
"In a pre-emptive war that's the kind of thing you should have planned for," he said.



His disquiet was echoed by Richard S Lanier and Gary Vikan of the 11-member committee composed of experts and professionals from the art world.

According to the Associated Press, Mr Lanier - director of a New York foundation - attacked "the administration's total lack of sensitivity and forethought regarding the Iraq invasion and loss of cultural treasures".


PRESUMED MISSING

80,000 cuneiform tablets with world's earliest writing

Bronze figure of Akkadian king - 4,500 years old

Silver harp from ancient city of Ur - 4,000 years old

Three-foot carved Sumerian vase - 5,200 years old

Headless statue of Sumerian king Entemena - 4,600 years old

Carved sacred cup - 4,600 years old


And Mr Vikan - director of Baltimore's Walters Art Museum - criticised the American failure to curb "what is now an open floodgate", the agency said.

As well as the national museum in Baghdad, a museum in Mosul was looted and the capital's Islamic Library, which housed ancient manuscripts including one of the oldest surviving copies of the Koran, was ravaged by fire.

The UN's cultural agency Unesco has called the loss and destruction already suffered as "a disaster".

The US has pledged to recover and repair the items looted.

Secretary of State Colin Powell said the Baghdad museum was "one of the great museums in the world" and that the US would take a leading role in restoring it.
 
My Free Thinking Friends,

Heres another perspective...

Iraqi Museum Lootings Were Organized, Experts Say







Thursday, April 17, 2003

PARIS ? Professional thieves, likely organized outside Iraq, pillaged the nation's priceless ancient history collections by using the cover of widespread looting -- and vault keys -- to make off with irreplaceable items, art experts and historians said Thursday.





The bandits were so efficient at emptying Iraqi libraries and museums that reports have already surfaced of artifacts appearing on the black market, some experts said. Certain thieves apparently knew exactly what they wanted from the irreplaceable Babylonian, Sumerian and Assyrian collections, and exactly where to find them.

"It looks as if part of the theft was a very, very deliberate, planned action," said McGuire Gibson, president of the American Association for Research in Baghdad. "It really looks like a very professional job."

Gibson was among 30 art experts and cultural historians assembled by the U.N. Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization to assess the damage to Iraq's heritage in the aftermath of the U.S.-led invasion.

In Washington, the FBI announced Thursday it had sent agents to Iraq to assist in recovering stolen antiquities.

"We are firmly committed to doing whatever we can to secure these treasures to the people of Iraq," FBI Director Robert Mueller told a news conference at the Justice Department.

But it remained unclear exactly what was gone and what survived the looting and thievery. With many museum records now in ashes and access to Iraq still cut off, it could take weeks or months to answer those questions.

Establishing a database was a key to finding out what had survived, and tracking down what was stolen, the experts said.

Neil MacGregor, director of the British Museum, said some of the greatest treasures -- including gold jewelry of the Assyrian queens -- were placed in the vaults of the national bank after the 1991 Gulf War. There was no information on whether those items remained inside.

The National Museum, one of the Middle East's most important archaeological repositories, was ransacked. But it was unknown whether one of its greatest treasures, tablets containing Hammurabi's Code, one of the earliest codes of law, were there when the looting began.

The pillaging has ravaged the irreplaceable Babylonian, Sumerian and Assyrian collections that chronicled ancient civilization in Mesopotamia -- the home of modern-day Iraq. Although much of the looting was haphazard, experts said some of it was highly organized.

"They were able to obtain keys from somewhere for the vaults and were able to take out the very important, the very best material," Gibson said. "I have a suspicion it was organized outside the country. In fact, I'm pretty sure it was."

Many at the meeting feared the stolen artifacts have been absorbed into highly organized trafficking rings that ferry the goods through a series of middlemen to collectors in Europe, the United States and Japan.

The FBI was cooperating with the international law enforcement organization Interpol in issuing alerts to all member nations to try to track any sales of the artifacts "on both the open and black markets," Muller said.

Ahead of the war, Iraq's antiquities' authorities gathered artifacts from around the country and moved them to Baghdad's National Museum, assuming the museum would not be bombed, Gibson said.

"They did not count on the museum being looted," he said.

The network of antiquities dealing in Iraq is well-developed, escalating far beyond the ability of authorities to stop it following the 1991 Gulf War. Thousands of antiquities had disappeared from the country even before the current war.

The trafficking feeds off of Iraq's poverty-stricken people, said Salma El Radi, an Iraqi archaeologist. "If you need to feed your family and the only way to do it is by looting a site, you're going to loot a site," El Radi said.

Much anger has been directed at U.S. troops, who stood by and watched as Iraq's treasures were carted off.

Koichiro Matsuura, director-general of Paris-based UNESCO, called Thursday for a U.N. resolution imposing a temporary embargo on trade in Iraqi antiquities. Such a resolution would also call for the return of such items to Iraq, he said.

"To preserve the Iraqi cultural heritage is, in a word, to enable Iraq to successfully make its transition to a new, free and prosperous society," the UNESCO chief said

DB9
 
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