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Old 09-14-2005, 05:55 PM   #16
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As a statistical poll, the thin description used in the news article leave little to project how "the other 15%" would respond.

Perhaps they (men and women) have a simple personal preference that their nations leader be male. Or, I'm sure you will find some that say "they can't drive, why let them run the country" or other such nonsense.

Here's a question: how do you respond to a person who, given the choice between two equally qualified candidates, would always choose the male candidate?
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Here's a question: how do you respond to a person who, given the choice between two equally qualified candidates, would always choose the male candidate?


sounds to me like a Sensitivity Weekend is in order.

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Here's a question: how do you respond to a person who, given the choice between two equally qualified candidates, would always choose the male candidate?
I'd have to say there could be no reason for them to do that other than they're prejudiced chauvinists of some kind
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I'd have to say there could be no reason for them to do that other than they're prejudiced chauvinists of some kind
Even if a woman came to the same conclusion?
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Even if a woman came to the same conclusion?


women can be sexists.

(just as black people can be racist, and homosexuals can be homophobic)
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Even if a woman came to the same conclusion?

Yes..that's just my personal opinion, I don't understand it if the people are equally qualified

women can be "chauvinists" too
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The 15% are those who regularly call in to unscientific poll 800 numbers to answer "I don't know" to the poll question.
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Yes..that's just my personal opinion, I don't understand it if the people are equally qualified

women can be "chauvinists" too
Then how do people decide when the two candidates are equally qualified without being labeled a "chauvinist"?
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Then how do people decide when the two candidates are equally qualified without being labeled a "chauvinist"?


you're shifting the question.

you had asked what would happen if someone would automatically prefer a man to a woman.
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you're shifting the question.

you had asked what would happen if someone would automatically prefer a man to a woman.
In the context of two equally qualified candidates. It is a no brainer if the woman is more qualified, but people choose the man.

If they are equal, is it still chauvinist to have that preference?
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In the context of two equally qualified candidates. It is a no brainer if the woman is more qualified, but people choose the man.

If they are equal, is it still chauvinist to have that preference?

oh, okay, now i understand the question.

well, ideally, the gender of the candidate wouldn't be the determining factor, it would be something else more resume-based, personality-based, etc. however, that X-Factor might be due to gender, though in a more subconscious way. that person might not be the stereotypical chauvinist, but has probably absorb the many misogynistic messages sent out by society in all aspects of culture (as someone who worries about the sexual content of television, i'm sure you'd agree that our perceptions are indeed shaped by the messages we receive not just from the media but from long-entrenched cultural atittudes ... like, men have "leadership qualities" but women are "bossy," men like to "shoot the breeze" but women "gossip," etc.)
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(as someone who worries about the sexual content of television, i'm sure you'd agree that our perceptions are indeed shaped by the messages we receive not just from the media but from long-entrenched cultural atittudes ... like, men have "leadership qualities" but women are "bossy," men like to "shoot the breeze" but women "gossip," etc.)
Oooooh, there's a section in my sociology book about this sort of thing! Haven't gotten to that part yet, though.

I can see where you're coming from, though, Irvine. I, too, would hope that if a man and a woman were both equally qualified for a job, that gender still would not play a role either way, but unfortunately, it would not surprise me if it did.

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I believe it's more of a subconscious masculine/feminine issue than sexism. Or it could be overt sexism, of course. Could be twisted chivalry, could be old fashioned.

Speaking generally of course, it's not my particular view on the issue. I say best person regardless, I am comfortable with the idea of a female president, but if given the choice would I subconsciously vote more masculine? It's possible.

I really beleive that this country is more prepared for a black male president 9 times out of 10 over a woman.
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I really beleive that this country is more prepared for a black male president 9 times out of 10 over a woman.
May I ask why you believe that? Just curious
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Commander In Chief premieres tonight, I will be watching (that and the game)

At least we can have a make believe female President, I am interested to see how they portray it
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