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Old 06-07-2006, 07:27 PM   #16
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These same people came to my home town to be at a funeral of a local soldier that was killed in Iraq. They are sick, sick people.
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Old 06-07-2006, 08:15 PM   #17
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There is a group of veterans called the Patriot Guard that also attend the funerals to 'keep watch' over the creeps who protest them. For these guys I feel proud. Going to a stranger's funeral to keep watch over evil-doers in the name of nothing but the family.
The Patriot Guard rock. We need more people like them in the world, willing to stand against what is wrong.
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Do you hate injustice, deep?
Do you hate poverty?
Do you hate rape?
Do you hate intolerance?


deep has a good point.

terrible as they may be, i don't "hate" any of these things -- that's an ultra-simplistic response to complex problems.

i might "hate" the effects of such things on individuals, but the thing itself simply is, and it must be dealt with.

beyond serving as a motivator to correct an injustice, hate seems a useless emotion and a useless adjective (much like evil is a useless adjective).
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The Patriot Guard rock. We need more people like them in the world, willing to stand against what is wrong.
No, what we needed was more people to stand up against Phelps and his messed-up family BEFORE he started protesting military funerals. He has been protesting at the funerals of gay people for YEARS and it wasn't until now--when our counrty thinks that slapping a magnet on a car makes someone patriotic--that anyone said "Hey, wait a damn minute!"

And the law that's been passed--or that the powers-that-be are trying to pass--bans protests at military funerals but not at ALL funerals.

(this is not a diatribe against you Sue, just against Phelps and the idea that suddenly this is a tragedy when it's been going on for years)
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I'm a reporter at a paper in Kansas and I've unfortunately come across this guy before. I did a story on how he and his clan picketed a play being done by our community theater that was about Matthew Shepherd. They had 7-year-old kids out there holding signs that read "God Hates Fags" with two stick figures having anal sex.

Lovely.

Then he protests a lot of college graduations too. They picketed my brother-in-law's graduation at the University of Kansas School of Law. They had signs that said "Fag Law." My brother-in-law went up next to one of the guys in his cap and gown, put his arm around him and had his picture taken. It was hilarious.
Then some other guy started yelling "This is what happens when idiot family members mate!!" Again, hilarious.

I've seriously thought about getting some Christians together -- those who actually try to reflect Christ's love -- to picket his picketing. We'd have signs that say "God is Love," and "Do not Judge," and stuff like that, with corresponding Bible verses too.

Any thoughts?
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I'd be there.

I'd really like to see this guy debate(if he's capable) someone who knows scripture and see how he can qualifies his "god hates..." agenda.
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BVS -- I like your music! Nice.

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Cool. I seriously think it'd be fun. I'd LOVE to debate with this guy. They're all a family of lawyers too (somehow) so it'd be fun.
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I've seriously thought about getting some Christians together -- those who actually try to reflect Christ's love -- to picket his picketing. We'd have signs that say "God is Love," and "Do not Judge," and stuff like that, with corresponding Bible verses too.

Any thoughts?
Yeah, mine would say "Let ye who is without sin cast the first stone....."
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Re: Westboro Baptist Church

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I dunno - maybe there was another thread about this, but it has recently come to my attention again, and I thought about posting. I really would be curious to see if there was anyone here who could back up their cause, or at least explain it with some clarity.
Back up their cause? No.

As with many messages, there is a kernel of validity to what they might want to be saying buried down somewhere. Frankly, it is so poorly communicated and done with intentional shock value that the kernel is completely lost.
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Yeah, mine would say "Let ye who is without sin cast the first stone....."
Great one!
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