dazzlingamy said:
It also shows that no matter how far we think we're taking in steps away from racism, its still there - on both sides. Perhaps we'll never be able to stop both sides from hating each other. I mean nooses in a tree is wrong, and offensive, but its not relevent in this day and age
Partly growing up in The 60's" in NYC .........amy........how people tended to talk about it then that there was racism and Instituationized Racism by whites against blacks [usually the mostvirulent] , Latinos, Asians, & Native Americans.
How black people tend to see it is......they can be predujiced agasinst whites but not rascist. I can kind of understand that being black people were forcecibly removed from there native african countries, made slaves of, then subjected to outright Jim Crowism in The South when the era of slavery was over -seperate hotels, hospitals, bathrooms, water fountains etc, plus the phyiscal violence of the KKK, White Citizens Council, Jim Birch Society etc. It was white people who did this.
[not that there hasn't been other types of slavery- in fact i heard once long time ago...and should google it up sometime that the word Slavs (slavic-speaking peoples) meant slaves in some Northern European language.
Oh yeah, plus p-ractically being ? indentured servents in the vast amount of cotton fields dowen in the South.....once slavery was gone.
Eventually I think.....that was one of the big reasons alot of African-Amercians went North-- NYC, Boston, Philly, DC, Detroit, Chicago .... thinkjing it would be better.........
It was AND it wasn't .
Out right rascism was somesomes there. Often it was more like "subtler" insitutionalism rasicm.
Even today............ 2 yrs ago The NYTimes sent black & white people SEPERATLEy for house-hunting/condos etc with EXACTLY same inhcome, jobs etyc...and WAY more than not the black people were STILL Turned Down.
there was a reccent study showing a white man with some kind of crime record would still be able to get a job easier than a black person W/O a criminal record.
I met a black woman from the deep south about 8 yrs ago.she'd came up North to get some better health care...............
She'd worked in a hospital and she said a lot of the black people were still intimidated to always look their white superiors in the eye when disagreeing with them.
She had to learn up here to be able to look at the part of the white medical team straight in the eye.
She ALSO said in the smaller farther away places from the cities.....there were like,
still separate dsrinking fountains fer chirst's sake!
The was like
1998 !!!
as you can see DA, racism in it's various forms still exists too much in America.....
as a white person i was b/c of my parents racism-free until my mid-thirties. you could say they "inoculated" me quite well from the time i was around 8 yrs. Unforntuantley, i did hear the other type of talk was always to say something agasinst it, and it must of snuck inside and lay dormant for 25 yrs. It came out AFTER I lost one of my deepest childhood {& onwards} dream.
I thought i had to "be an adult" [the loss] about it.........they didn't know THAT much about greiving then EVEN for lost dreams.....I hardly said a thing to anyone about it.
I beleive that sadness & hidden anger began to manifest as rascism [tho for a while i was very arrogantly nasty in my mind agaisnt alot of people]......like scape-goating those lower on the "pecking order".
and while i have only my responsiblity to take for it.....i just thot about it............it came out in 83- 84. this was under Ronald Reagan's Presidency.
And HE was NOT a strong presidnet against racism.
In fact - tho i only learned it like 15 yrs later or so.....
......he kicked off one of his major campaign starts in i think......
....Philidelphia,
Mississsippi .....
....it didn't ring my bell when i heard the name......
He was talking about "states rights" [usually in the South esp a codeword for the "good ole Jim Crow days"] so WHAT was it?
It was where those 3 civil rights workers were mudered by white rascists while trying to bring voting rights to black people in South.
Coincidence?
so i have to continue to note when i think[not too often] things that aredisgusting, throw up the #warning sign# get a grip, and come out of it.
Part of working on being a better Humam Being! I am almost sure as {I hope /
ray:} my life impproves again such thoughts will diminish, or dissapear again.
ANYway
....hnaging a fucking noose under those white & black conditions is no way a innocent prank..those lille monsters got off waaaayyy too easy.........
and yolland you had a very good post about those "hillbilly's.
ALSO---just keep on slashing those budgets for health ( physcical/ mental/pre-natal etc) care, good drug-treatment programs and that's part of the reason you end up with people like that.
I will have to read more of this thread on another day to totally follow the time line of events for the Jeno 6.......
it waaaaaay past the time I should of been home {2am :EEK:
for when I have to get up tomorrow, and what I have to do when i get home. But at least it had me concentrating on someother's people problems than worrying about my eye exaim tomorrow for a few hours!
give my regards to your family. that is a terrible and unfair thing to go through. based on your account, it sounds to me like the man getting his car taken away committed the true crime here by coming up with a lie so he can get out of having his car taken away. was the car taken away after all? was him lying to get your cousin locked up worth it?
