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Old 11-16-2005, 11:01 PM   #16
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My ancestors weren't slaves.

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Old 11-17-2005, 12:36 AM   #17
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Why does time matter?

We're taught history to learn from the mistakes of others. The slavery of blacks in America ignored this lesson due to the fact that "blacks weren't human".

If you can't see the difference than I'm sorry.
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It's interesting that no one has brought up slavery in the Caribbean where more Africans were sent and more Africans died compared to the United States.
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I dont see the point of people attacking others in this thread, it is true, there has been slavery in every race, and just because one has been documented more than others, does not mean the others didnt happen. Its wrong in every way, and I dont think we should get into a debate about who's been wronged more that the other. Think of it more as an awareness, so we dont repeat what others have done. Its horrible that any HUMAN had to go thru any type of slavery, but we can learn from this, and its a horrible lesson to learn, but we CAN learn from it, because it happened, and is happening still. Thats what sets us apart from the people doing this.
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Reparations and Affirmative Action for all of us then. We are ALL OWED something!?
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Why does time matter?

We're taught history to learn from the mistakes of others. The slavery of blacks in America ignored this lesson due to the fact that "blacks weren't human".

If you can't see the difference than I'm sorry.
Do you think we will learn the same lesson regarding abortion?
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The selective memory regarding slavery (both past and ongoing) only serves political ends in justifying current race-based preferences.

It is a shame that all other forms of slavery are dismissed (directly, or indirectly with the accusation of racism) in order to preserve a political argument.
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Do you think we will learn the same lesson regarding abortion?
Yes, I think someday sex education and science will reduce the amount of abortions perfomed in this country.
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The selective memory regarding slavery (both past and ongoing) only serves political ends in justifying current race-based preferences.

It is a shame that all other forms of slavery are dismissed (directly, or indirectly with the accusation of racism) in order to preserve a political argument.


isn't it less slavery and more legislated forms of social discrimination (i.e., housing "zones") that were a fixture of American life until, i dunno, the 70s?

and that's just the quantifiable stuff.

the psychological effects of racism -- evidence in such studies as the "dolls test" done by Professor Kenneth Clark that was an intergral part of the Brown vs. Board of Ed case -- are far more difficult to combat than racist housing laws.

if not for race-based affirmative action, we'd have no Colin Powell.
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The selective memory regarding slavery (both past and ongoing) only serves political ends in justifying current race-based preferences.

It is a shame that all other forms of slavery are dismissed (directly, or indirectly with the accusation of racism) in order to preserve a political argument.
Doesn't it also serve other political arguments to ignore the fact that slavery 4000 years ago and slavery 150 years ago is different? To just throw your arms up and say, well we all have slaves somewhere in our bloodline so it really doesn't matter, serves a political end as well.
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Doesn't it also serve other political arguments to ignore the fact that slavery 4000 years ago and slavery 150 years ago is different? To just throw your arms up and say, well we all have slaves somewhere in our bloodline so it really doesn't matter, serves a political end as well.
Then, could you articulate the political ends of the iron horse's original post?
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