|06-20-2003, 01:53 PM||#47|
love, blood, life
Join Date: May 2001
Location: six convenient metro locations
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*hands in certificate of citizenshipery...moves to Canada.
|06-20-2003, 02:06 PM||#48|
Rock n' Roll Doggie
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: s p o r a t i c
Local Time: 05:42 AM
My point about us policing and keeping the peace is as follows:
Countries around the world complain that the US is heavy-handed and we stick our nose in where is should not be stuck. They think that we come in and try to influence the region with our ways of life and want people to think how we do.
That is mostly untrue.
What bothers me most is that in many cases nations do not take action when agregious things are happening all over the world. When we do, they ususally complain about us being arrogant and trying to influence the specific region. It is only months, sometimes years later when we often realize (through war crimes tribunals, mass grave findings, evidence of genocide, or any other after the fact examples) that the US and its intelligence may be right and not just arrogant.
In the past five or so years alone the US has been deployed in:
Peru+Ecuador (Operation Safe Border)
Kuwait (Intrinsic Action I-III)
Bosnia (Operation Joint Guard)
Former Yugoslavia (Operation Determined Guard)
Guam (Operation Pacific Haven)
Liberia (Operation Quick Response and Operation Assured Response)
Northern Iraq (Operation Northern Watch)
Liberia (Operation Assured Lift)
Albania (Operation Silver Wake)
Albania + Macedonia (Operation Determined Flacon)
Former Yugoslavia (Operation Deliberate Forge + Operation Determine Forge)
Eritria (Operation Safe Departure)
Guinea-Bissau (Operation Shepard Venture)
Kosovo (Operation Balkan Calm)
Democratic Republic of Congo (Operation Autumn Shelter)
Tanzania + Kenya (Operation Resolute Response)
Sudan + Afghanistan (Operation Infinite Reach)
Serbia (Operation Eagle Eye)
Central America (Operation Strong Support)
Kosovo + Serbia (Operation Allied Force)
Kosovo (Operation Allied Harbour)
Kosovo (Operation Joint Guardian)
Turkey (Operation Avid Response)
East Timor (Operation Stabilise)
Venezuela (Operation Fundamental Response)
Mozambique (operation Altas Response)
Kuwait (Operation Desert Spring)
Kuwait (Operation Desert Falcon)
Kuwait (Operation Desert Focus)
Now my point is this: If you were to review the names and purposes of these operations, most of them have nothing to do with war, but are rather policing, rescuing, transporting, or aiding people abroad.
I fully admit the rest of the world should be able to criticize the US, but I have to say it really does not interest me if those that are doing the criticism have no part in world affairs.
When was the last time Brazil sent a peacekeeping force anywhere?
So my original comment was based on the number of deployments we have around the world, the purpose for these deployments, and what would happen if we were not there.
It seems to me the US is ready and willing to take on many challenges (a la East Timor) for the sake of others, but when we commit to an operation that may satisfy some of our own agendas, we get criticized. As I said the criticism is fair, but please do not be surprised if many of us choose to ignore it.
|06-20-2003, 10:21 PM||#49|
Rock n' Roll Doggie
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Gulf Coast State of Mine
Local Time: 04:42 AM
That was an informative post, ouizy. So many places around the globe, so many soldiers deployed on request of others. Most of those missions are overlooked by the mass public.
If it was such a huge, offensive violation fo the human rights of French people for restaurants and Jay Leno and other entities to make humor of France's political decisions, then it should also be a travesty when it is determined and/or expressed that "America is arrogant." I agree with much of what you said in pronciple, but I believe we sometimes need to conced double standards.
|06-20-2003, 11:20 PM||#50|
Blue Crack Addict
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: A far distance down.
Local Time: 03:42 AM
i am bias, too
|06-21-2003, 09:17 AM||#52|
Join Date: Jun 2003
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