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Old 12-08-2004, 05:54 PM   #16
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That's why it's called a theory.
I wasn't referring to the theory of Paul being gay but in general - a person who is homophobic/ against the act of homosexuality is actually a homosexual/ closet case.
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I've heard of this hypothesis before (as well as theories regarding the sexuality of Jesus and the disciples). We have absolutely no evidence, but let's proceed for the sake of theory.

It really isn't a theory, but more of an exercise in thinking. To understand the true liberating nature of Grace, the article may be helpful. I disagree with the concluding suggestion that Scripture is a limiting factor in knowing God.



It is also interesting that this theory accepts the premise that homosexuality is a sin.
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I've heard Jesus, King David, and his good buddy Jonathon were a little on the gay side as well...
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Homophobia/ against homosexuality = you're a closet case homosexual. Right. I mean this is a fact.

hey, the RNC is just *crawling* with homosexuals. Ken Melhman, Dan Gurley ... and seeing as how i live in DC, i could start naming names of Senators and members of Congress (i am serious). but i won't, because i can't possibly understand how hard it must be to be a closeted gay republican.
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Gay Republicans are an interesting lot... but then I have no idea what gay Republicans have to do with this thread?
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I also read that Abe Lincoln was Gay.

I don't believe it, I think these ideas are all agenda driven.

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I wasn't referring to the theory of Paul being gay but in general - a person who is homophobic/ against the act of homosexuality is actually a homosexual/ closet case.
So you dismiss the rest of it? I'm not saying I subscribe to this theory, but isn't it just as naive to write it off as if you don't like homosexuality you must gay. Goes both ways.
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Gay Republicans are an interesting lot... but then I have no idea what gay Republicans have to do with this thread?

it was in reference to the post about the most offensive homophobes are usually closeted homoseuxals, and how this might tie into the theory of Paul being gay. at least i think that's what was intended. i was drawing a contemporary link to gay people who help Republicans win elections upon an agenda centered upon homophobia.
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and doesn't this thread do even more damage to those who take the bible as the literal word of god?

the bible has been written by and interpreted by men (and several times over). why wouldn't any society's prejudices shine through in the text?
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I also read that Abe Lincoln was Gay.

I don't believe it, I think these ideas are all agenda driven.

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there is ample evidence that Lincoln had a relationship with a younger man for many years. dont' forget -- "gay" is a new term, and Lincoln would never have considered himself gay by contemporary definitions even if he did have relationships and sex with other men.

it's all relative.
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So you dismiss the rest of it? I'm not saying I subscribe to this theory, but isn't it just as naive to write it off as if you don't like homosexuality you must gay. Goes both ways.
Dismiss the rest of what? I thought the theory had truth b/c people (not on this board particularly) always seem to respond that any sign of a person disliking/ opposing homosexuality than that person is gay... the whole J Edgar Hoover thing.
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it was in reference to the post about the most offensive homophobes are usually closeted homoseuxals, and how this might tie into the theory of Paul being gay. at least i think that's what was intended. i was drawing a contemporary link to gay people who help Republicans win elections upon an agenda centered upon homophobia.

So gay republicans are actually closet homosexuals/ homophobes?
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there is ample evidence that Lincoln had a relationship with a younger man for many years. dont' forget -- "gay" is a new term, and Lincoln would never have considered himself gay by contemporary definitions even if he did have relationships and sex with other men.

it's all relative.
What does having a relationship with a younger man equal to?


Batman and now Abe Lincoln? Whoa...
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Dismiss the rest of what? I thought the theory had truth b/c people (not on this board particularly) always seem to respond that any sign of a person disliking/ opposing homosexuality than that person is gay... the whole J Edgar Hoover thing.
If you read the argument that wasn't the only basis of the theory. But you're obviously stuck in your own preconceptions...
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If you read the argument that wasn't the only basis of the theory. But you're obviously stuck in your own preconceptions...
Aren't we all?
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