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Old 11-08-2001, 01:29 PM   #16
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the media being all tight lipped on how many people have actually died

that's THE EVIDENCE

this is turning out to be a bigger exercise of propaganda than just politics in this so-called 'holy' war

Yeah, only 100 people died in the holocoust.
You're a fucking moron.

Over 110 people died in my 1.5-2 square mile neighborhood alone.

Why don't you count the funerals. Or are the US government hiring actors to fall apart and sob over an American Flag draped casket. Again, you're a fucking moron.

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Old 11-08-2001, 02:45 PM   #17
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So you think that Afganistan would just let American/UN forces could just walk around their country at free will?

*Reality check*
Pfft, the American and UN forces do not want to walk around there, after the cluster bombs.

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Old 11-09-2001, 11:45 AM   #18
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Yeah, only 100 people died in the holocoust.
Woah!

ITZ ON THE INTERWEB, IT GOTZ TO BE TROO!!!

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Old 11-09-2001, 04:28 PM   #19
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hmm... someone on the web said that the toll is about 1700 in the WTC
Crashed, taht's the confirmed dead. The 5000+ number is the missing. And at this point, if they're not accounted for, they're dead.
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Old 11-09-2001, 08:03 PM   #20
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One thing that you must consider is what would happen if America and the world did nothing. Would the terror stop? Would Osama feel like he should stop killing innocent people? Would the Islamic militants' hatred toward the free world cease?

No. Never.
So, as you can see everything the US is doing is making Ossama Bin Laden think that he should stop killing unitedstatians...now he is REALLY scared...that's why he is laughing his fucking ass off in front of your faces. C'mon ppl! (Oups I should not talk, i remembered that im anti US)

I cant believe how the things are turning...I mean...I read today that Powell want to bomb Irak after Afganistan 'cos US does not want that a country that has developed great arms thinks that they dont count on it, or something...wasnt it about terrorism?...BTW the US has some Al Qaeda bases (quite redundat) in it's territory, so count the whole world as a place for terrorism...(and join Amnesty International)

Tons of love, and in this comming days more than ever and specially to Anma and any other muslims pals: As salamu alai kum! Allah Hafiz! (I can't believe that you'll keep bombing durin Ramadam...I can't believe it...It is as senseless as someone fliying a plane into a tower, so as you can see, everything is possible in this world...)

PS confused: If Im not on the US side...and Im not on the Terrorist side...and Im not in the middle (Cos none of them is even quite right for me) in wich side am i?

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Old 11-09-2001, 10:21 PM   #21
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I read today that Powell want to bomb Irak after Afganistan 'cos US does not want that a country that has developed great arms thinks that they dont count on it, or something...wasnt it about terrorism?...
I think you misinterpreted what you read: Powell (along with other U.S. leaders, including Senator Lieberman, D-CT) want to go after Saddam Hussein's Iraqi regime due to the fact that they have developed CHEMICAL weapons, not "great" weapons, although Intelligence fears that he may also have access to "great" weapons of mass destruction. Also, more and more evidence is coming in that Saddam Hussein was in some capacity involved in the 9-11 attacks.

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Old 11-09-2001, 11:00 PM   #22
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So, as you can see everything the US is doing is making Ossama Bin Laden think that he should stop killing unitedstatians...now he is REALLY scared...that's why he is laughing his fucking ass off in front of your faces. C'mon ppl! (Oups I should not talk, i remembered that im anti US)

Uh, it's not quite our intent to convince ObL to stop attacking us.

I think our intent is to eliminate him.
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Speedracer, do you mean that even if you could stop him from attacking again, its still not enough cos the real purpose is to eliminate him?

I didnt think fighting terrorism was to employ proscription tactics.
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Old 11-12-2001, 08:32 AM   #24
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Speedracer, do you mean that even if you could stop him from attacking again, its still not enough cos the real purpose is to eliminate him?

I didnt think fighting terrorism was to employ proscription tactics.
Having him locked away will suffice, yes. Perhaps I should have said "our real purpose is to eliminate the threat he presents."
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The point is that you will never get him locked up by doing what youa re doing. Make some plan how to catch him and don't go on killing civilians. And don't even mention "colateral damage" - that's the sickest expression I ever heard - called it for what it is -plain old murder!
Catch bin laden and kill all the terorists if you ask me - but you are not doing that. The terorists are just a little bit wors than the people who are throwing cluster bombs (forbiden by the Geneva conventions - so you are doing a war crime).
And about the number of people who died in WTC - it's not realy important. It's about the act and not about the numbers. I also read (washington post and some other US newspapers) that the count is much less than they thought in the beggining. That at the end it would come to 2000-3000. The real problem about counting the dead are all the non-Us citizens who worked for foreign firms - it's hard to get all the info about them.
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Old 11-12-2001, 11:09 AM   #26
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And about the number of people who died in WTC - it's not realy important. It's about the act and not about the numbers.
Huh? The numbers aren't important? That many deaths and the numbers aren't important? Thousands of people dead is a lot of people dead. Don't tell me the numbers aren't important.

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80's you got me wrong. I didn't say that it doesen't matter. What I meant was that the WTC was a terible terible thing, and it would be terible if there was just 1 dead. My point was that smaller number of killed can not diminish or lessen the monstuocity of the act. It that aspect the number is not important. I hope that I'm clear thi time and that you won't misinterpate me this time.
And I would say that it would be better if the number was smaller then the first estimates. Less civilians dead the better!
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Marko (and Crashed),

Are you saying that we shouldn't be bombing Afghanistan, or that we shouldn't be attacking Afghanistan at all? Because I think there are some very good reasons why the Taliban has to go.

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One thing that you must consider is what would happen if America and the world did nothing.
but are we just going to keep on bombing Afghanistan until we have figured out what we can do about the taliban thread?

or is there a certain goal we are trying to achieve?

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