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Old 02-12-2007, 06:00 PM   #16
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I think that all those who are pro-war should enlist and go fight it. I'm tired of my friends and family having to fight wars that the richer people just wanna sit in their warm comfy homes and chat about.
Sorry, this topic has effected me personally.
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Old 02-12-2007, 06:43 PM   #17
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Other possibilities would include a previous war, air strikes, containment, weapons inspections and the consideration that the sanctions in place are killing off tens of thousands a year without achieving their goals?
Nice soundbytes. Too bad none of those were completed.
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Who says there aren't wealthy kids fighting. I think it's the way there parents raise their kids and teach them about there country is one major factor.
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Old 02-12-2007, 06:48 PM   #19
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Who says there aren't wealthy kids fighting. I think it's the way there parents raise their kids and teach them about there country is one major factor.
Be honest with yourself, the percentage of soldiers from very well to do families is tiny...

It has nothing to do with the way you're raised.
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The way children are raised has alot to do with family, but then outside ifluences come into play don't forget that. So they may be pro- american and want to join, until Not in our name comes around.
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The way children are raised has alot to do with family, but then outside ifluences come into play don't forget that.
This is a given... What's your point?
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So they may be pro- american and want to join, until Not in our name comes around.
This just leads me to say WTF? So if you don't join you don't love your country?

"until Not in our name comes around" I'm sure you just worded this wrong but I don't understand.
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I am not saying that by not joining you don't love your country. But here in the bay area, especially in Santa Cruz they show disrespect towards the men and woman of the United States Armed Forces.

Do you think this world is over populated?
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But here in the bay area, especially in Santa Cruz they show disrespect towards the men and woman of the United States Armed Forces.
Yes there are people who show disrespect everywhere, what's your point?


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Do you think this world is over populated?
Woah!!! You are going off on tangents that don't even make sense.
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ok let me start over. War is like the red and blue pill that morpheous holds in his hand one war pill can be for the good of humanity but yet you have the other pill people who think war is never the answer. I say hogwash. Peace is a dream that can probably never be reached, but if we want to reach that peace do you think talking can do much with other people out there who want nothing but death? If that's what they want and if thats our obstical to reach that peace then so be it, even if it means millions or billions dying.
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ok let me start over. War is like the red and blue pill that morpheous holds in his hand one war pill can be for the good of humanity but yet you have the other pill people who think war is never the answer.
Poor analogy. It's biased throughout. The war pill is good, other people bad... Come on Justin.

Plus have you seen anyone in here say war is never the answer? It's rare you'll find a true pacifist.

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I say hogwash. Peace is a dream that can probably never be reached, but if we want to reach that peace do you think talking can do much with other people out there who want nothing but death? If that's what they want and if thats our obstical to reach that peace then so be it, even if it means millions or billions dying.
Diplomacy has made a lot of change throughout history. I've already said war needs to be explored when all other options have been exhausted.

I'm really not sure what your agenda is, it seems like all you want me to do is say that THIS war is right. Well it aint gonna happen.
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With recent comments about Obama I have these two questions.

So does this mean that anyone who is pro-war is stupid? Aren't they entitled to there opinion. Do any of you anti-war people in here find any war justifiable?
Which recent comments?
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Nice soundbytes. Too bad none of those were completed.
Your right, if we had just waited long enough then Iraq could have imploded alone, but at least we wouldn't feel guilty about it.
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Your right, if we had just waited long enough then Iraq could have imploded alone, but at least we wouldn't feel guilty about it.
And your conscience is free now?

Please, anyone who is guilt free now has no conscience.
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No it isn't but the ineptitude of Bush right back to the CPA and the concequences of those policies or the sheer evil of Islamist factions and what they are doing to the Iraqi people today doesn't detract from the situation in Iraq before Saddam was removed.
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Re: War!

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So does this mean that anyone who is pro-war is stupid?
Yes. War goes hand-in-hand with death and destruction, so anyone who supports that is, without a doubt, stupid.

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Aren't they entitled to there opinion.
And I'm entitled to consider their opinion thoroughly stupid and not worth the time of day.

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Do any of you anti-war people in here find any war justifiable?
As a pacifist (but not a "strong" pacifist), I consider violence only appropriate when it is in self-defence or in aid of someone who is not capable of defending themselves. Any and all aggressive acts are reprehensible and unjustified.
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