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Old 04-07-2006, 12:00 PM   #1
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Wal-Mart- Good or Evil?

I have mixed feelings on this. On one hand, they are very good for the average American who doesn't have much money, because they keep prices low and affordable. They have everything in one place, food, clothes, household and car supplies, etc.

On the other hand, by doing this, they are destroying the local economy in some places, and killing off 'mom and pop' privately owned stores. While those stores may charge higher prices, they have to because they can't buy in bulk like a chain giant can. So while I feel sorry for the small businesses going down because of Wal-Mart, I can't blame the people who choose to shop where the prices are lower. So this is the dilemma.

Another factor is that Wal-Mart is not good to its employees. Most will be fired for taking off sick without a doctor's note, yet they cannot afford to lose the day's pay and pay for a doctor out of pocket too. (this came from the mouths of employees I know personally) Recently I encountered an elderly woman of at least 70 bagging groceries with a cast on her arm. She'd had surgery and it wasn't healing well because she coudn't rest it, but she had no more payed sick leave and could not 'afford' to rest. This is tragic.

What are your thoughts?
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Old 04-07-2006, 12:12 PM   #2
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Big, successful corporations make nice targets - especially when unions can't tap into the money flow.

Is Walmart our idea of the perfect employer? No.

Are people willing to pay higher prices to maintain ideal work environments? Apparently not.
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Well, I think they're evil because:
I don't like Walmarts. I don't like they way they treat their employees. I don't generally like the employees. I don't like that the family has billions of dollars but doesn't mind paying minimum wage, and not provide health care to many of their employees (is that right?). I don't like most the shoppers in there. I don't like the layouts of Walmart. I hate the parking lots. I don't like that when they build a Walmart, many small business go kaput.

All that being said, I still occasianly shop there. So something that bad yet still so enticing can only be evil. And I guess I'm a litle bit evil in my complacency. And knowing that, I'll probably still shop there now and then.

The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world to shop at Walmart.
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Old 04-07-2006, 12:41 PM   #4
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Evil!

Don't get me started! I'll try to contain myself!! Wal-mart is falling short in many areas: As an employer, Customer Service, Stock actually on shelves, Quality of clothing/stock, Prices compared to other stores is really about the same (especially considering the fact that you have to make more than one trip somewhere to get all the items you need - because Wal-mart IS GOING to be out of certain stocked items), and Check-out wait time..... Just to name a few off the top of my head...
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Wal-Mart and similar stores represent urban sprawl, which makes them evil in my book.
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I think a society that justifies treating people badly as the cost of business or offering lower prices gets what they pay for eventually.
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I don't like Wal-Mart. I don't like the way they treat their employees, and I don't like it that they drive small businesses into the ground. That being said I did shop once there when I couldn't find any broadcloth at my usual fabric shop. But it was because I either went there or didn't get the fabric.
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Old 04-07-2006, 02:31 PM   #8
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Wal-Mart lives or dies on whether it has customers, so it isn't going to go out to make itself evil.

Regardless of lack of stock availability, quality or customer service, there are many many people out there that consider it to be doing enough right things for them to use it...if it wasn't they would simply choose to go elsewhere.

There are many stories about how Walmart have entered areas and heavily discounted their prices in order to force local completitors out of business, only to raise prices when there are none left. However I believe it is the responsibility of governments to ensure that every business is able to compete on a level playing field, and not be able to exploit markets unfairly. Walmart clearly don't show any concern for moral responsiblity, but why should they? They are playing by the rules.
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I do like their Smiley......

Have to admit that in my neighborhood there is not much of a choice of stores.... they do have a great assortment of Matchbox cars {I purchase them by name and not looks BTW}.....their apparel is okay but after a few washings they do have a tattered look.....the clerks are cheerful...good prices on allergy pills and aspirin.....so I would rate "good".

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However I believe it is the responsibility of governments to ensure that every business is able to compete on a level playing field, and not be able to exploit markets unfairly. Walmart clearly don't show any concern for moral responsiblity, but why should they? They are playing by the rules.
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I choose not to shop there. Luckily, I have a choice, I'd hate to live in a place where there was no option.
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I do not shop there, and I would rather pay more for something than shop there. Probably because of the way they treat (or don't treat) their employees
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I do not shop at Wal-Mart because I do not like them. They bragged years ago about selling only American made products and that was blown out of the water when 60 Minutes or one of those newsy shows did a piece on them proving that was false. At the time Mr Walmart was till alive and lied through his teeth dyring his interviews. At that I refused to shop there. I don't like stories about how they treat employees either. There are other places I prefer to spend my money at and give my business to. I wish Wal-Mart would be driven out of business.
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Well the fashion in which employees are treated in say, Coles in Australia, is a far cry from Wal-mart. We are treated with plenty of respect and no one ever complains, they really do aim to make sure their customers and employees are satisfied. And Coles is the equivalent corporation in Australia.
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Well the fashion in which employees are treated in say, Coles in Australia, is a far cry from Wal-mart. We are treated with plenty of respect and no one ever complains, they really do aim to make sure their customers and employees are satisfied. And Coles is the equivalent corporation in Australia.
It will be interesting to see if the new industrial relations workplace changes will affect the way Coles and other large corporations in Australia treat their employees,we are already seeing a increase in sackings a week into the changes
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