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Old 12-17-2003, 11:13 AM   #16
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If he was "fuming", he should have stopped it, no matter who would have been ticked off or how much $ he would have lost.





That would have shown true strength of character.
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Its just ignorant, the whole thing. To think that these comedians are supporting Dean with thier "humor" is crazy. And once again, we see more evidence of the hate that is all over the Democratic party. From "hate bush" rallies to things like this. Here is a message, IT DOESNT WORK......
So, the GOP should just sit back and let Deans supporters cut his throat for him with occurences like this. Its sad really....
I don't think there's a ton of hate in the Democratic party. Rather, it's silence in the face of like this that reinforces this notion. I don't like it at all. This doesn't represent me. It's precisely this kind of thing that has me a bit annoyed with the pundits who claim Dean's won the nomination. If he's won the nomination why doesn't he even have a quarter of Democratic votes in the polls? Let's vote dammit. We're stuck with this primary system. We might as well use it.
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if some of these comments were made on, say, the daily show... or tough crowd with colin quinn... or on the now off the air politicly incorrect... i might get a chuckle out of 'em and then just write it off. but to have people saying these things at events sponsored by and for candidates is just wrong. al franken went nutso at one of these events a few months back. just another case of idiots and the idiotic idiots who support them

calm the anger, dems... woooo saaa... serenity now!
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I don't think there's a ton of hate in the Democratic party.
There is as much hate in the Democratic party as there is in the Republican party as there is in any other political organization. They just hate different things.
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That would have shown true strength of character.
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eh, I can't ever get too worked up about what comedians say regardless of which side they're on. I just find it all pretty dumb but not worth much attention.
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take my political opinions seriously! bush is satan! oh this isn't going over well in the press? ahhh i'm just a comedian... don't take me seriously!
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This is something that might really derail Dean's campaign.

It really doesnt matter who is the people saying it, he didnt stop it.

But because i wasnt there I cant really say, and the writer of the article does sound a bit bitter. When i see a tape or hear audio then i'll make my decision.
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This is something that might really derail Dean's campaign.

It really doesnt matter who is the people saying it, he didnt stop it.

But because i wasnt there I cant really say, and the writer of the article does sound a bit bitter. When i see a tape or hear audio then i'll make my decision.
I think video was banned from the event, however, although the article is an opinion article, it is based on facts.
And youre right, he didnt stop it, and the media has chosen to not cover it. (media bias?)

also, remember that nobody from Deans camp has denied any of this so far....
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What does this say about Dean as a potential leader?

Also, democrats should not be defending this behavior, they should be criticizing it as well.
It says nothing about him as a potential leader. These are sucessful mainstream comics. What they say doesn't reflect him as a leader.

I'll defend free speech, even if it's something I don't paticularly like. Plus you're reading a biased article with quotes not given in context.
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I guess guilt by implication is applied selectively. Just ask Trent Lott.
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That would have shown true strength of character.
No...it's called being polite. He didn't interrupt them on-stage, probably because he didn't want to make a scene.

Either way, it is apparent that people who hate Dean and the Democratic Party here will find nothing redeemable about either anyway, so should we really be shocked about these convenient "moral outrages" from Bush supporters?

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Well, I'm a Democrat, I don't hate Dean or the Democratic party... I'm NOT a Bush supporter, and I have moral outrage over this

I guess I'm just weird
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No...it's called being polite. He didn't interrupt them on-stage, probably because he didn't want to make a scene.

Melon, you are a good man, but this is quite a stretch isnt it? While Dean was being "polite" these comedians were the ones making a scene that could have been pre-empted. Can you at least admit that if this were a pro-Bush event with the same results there would be more outrage?

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Well, I'm a Democrat, I don't hate Dean or the Democratic party... I'm NOT a Bush supporter, and I have moral outrage over this

I guess I'm just weird
No you're not. I'm a liberal, I don't hate Dean (I will vote for him if he wins the nomination), I do NOT support Bush, and this pisses me off. It's not good politics.
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