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Old 02-22-2002, 01:12 PM   #16
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This whole Liberal vs. Conservative thing really pisses me off.

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Thankyou TheU2. My sentiments exactly. The conservative bashing by liberals and liberal bashing by the conservatives in this forum is nothing more than taking the piss.

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Old 02-22-2002, 04:01 PM   #17
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I believe the comments were logical, melon, whatever the source; hence, my reply above.

Everyone else: the debate is much more deeply rooted than a mere "pissing contest." It's an ideological debate to decide how Americans exist - whether security is more important than freedom, or vice versa.
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Old 02-22-2002, 04:57 PM   #18
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It's an ideological debate to decide how Americans exist - whether security is more important than freedom, or vice versa.
This sounds really interesting. When Democrats talk about providing some sort of security to those people who are unemployed, or disabled, or lack health insurance, Republicans are typically opposed to this on the basis that the taxation required to fund such programs is an infringement of their freedom, and that people shouldn't be encourage to rely on the state, they should be able to provide for themselves and so maintain their freedom.

But right now we have almost the opposite situation, where Republicans are willing to give up some of their freedoms in order to provide security against terrorism, but the Democrats are generally more concerned about the erosion of personal liberties.

I know that's a very simplistic analysis, but it just struck me as interesting. Thoughts, anyone?
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Old 02-22-2002, 08:16 PM   #19
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I believe the comments were logical, melon, whatever the source; hence, my reply above.
Well said Bubba, that is the precise reason I posted it..

It seems the only one who had a problem with it even being posted was Melon.

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