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Old 12-12-2004, 10:01 PM   #16
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Old 12-13-2004, 02:07 AM   #17
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Um, I do not believe it happened. And, I have my reasons. First of all, there is no reason to believe at all that Jesus ever spoke of his birth. His father is not even mentioned outside of the nativity stories, so it's doubtful he supplied the story. As wonderful as Mary might've been, she along with "family" wondered if Jesus was "besides himself." If the family knew that the holy spirit had placed Jesus inside of Mary why would they question him?
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Beautifully done Dread. In the answers, not necessarily the question itself.
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I believe so. But that is the key word. Belief. It certainly can't be proven, can it?
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Yes, I believe it did

There was an excellent special on CNN last night about the Virgin Mary and Mary Magdalene. If they re-run it, it's definitely worth watching.
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For those of you who believe it, why would God have to create his own son in a manner completely different from every other person on the planet?
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For those of you who believe it, why would God have to create his own son in a manner completely different from every other person on the planet?
How do you know it was a completely different manner to every other conception? God could create all babys for all you know. Its science that tells us that a man and a woman create babies.
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For those of you who believe it, why would God have to create his own son in a manner completely different from every other person on the planet?
I'm not sure what you mean exactly? Are you asking why God didn't have sex with Mary?
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What if you believe in the pre-Constantine version Dread?
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What if you believe in the pre-Constantine version Dread?
What is that?
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How do you know it was a completely different manner to every other conception? God could create all babys for all you know. Its science that tells us that a man and a woman create babies.
Well, supposedly she was a Virgin? Doesn't that make him different from other babies?

As far as I know, other babies require a man and a woman to particiapate in the act. The theory is this did not happen.

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I'm not sure what you mean exactly? Are you asking why God didn't have sex with Mary?
Everyone else on the planet that God chose to work through had a mother and a father. Here we have a virgin birth. Why? WHy something completely different?
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Everyone else on the planet that God chose to work through had a mother and a father. Here we have a virgin birth. Why? WHy something completely different?
Well he worked through these others. They had free will and could leave anytime. This one is part him. She was conceived by the spirit. If we are to believe that God is all powerful we can believe he could conceived of a child this way.

I would guess that he chose a virgin so that even if no one else believed at the time that it wasn't Joeseph's, she would have no doubt and would raise him as the son of God. A lot of preasure for a young woman.
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1.) Yes, it happened.

2.) To make him special. If you're gonna be the Messiah, ya gotta stand out.
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Everyone else on the planet that God chose to work through had a mother and a father. Here we have a virgin birth. Why? WHy something completely different?
Sex sells. And God had the wisdom to foresee lack of sex also sells?

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