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Old 09-08-2016, 08:10 AM   #916
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This forum is a dreadful place for those who want to criticize Clinton because the ones doing the criticizing are so batshit.


So is her actual political opposition.
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Still no comment on the obvious Trump payoffs in Florida after months of bashing Clinton for Pay to Play, eh?
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I watched the forum last night.

Clinton was slower and longer with her replies than Trump.
Because of this Trump received more questions from the audience.


Also going around today is the accusation that Clinton was wearing an ear piece.

https://www.zerocensorship.com/uncen...l-forum-320171
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This forum is a dreadful place for those who want to criticize Clinton because the ones doing the criticizing are so batshit.
Yes, accurate. I don't see much worth in regards to discussion re: Clinton on this board.
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Old 09-08-2016, 09:55 AM   #922
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I watched the forum last night.

Clinton was slower and longer with her replies than Trump.
Because of this Trump received more questions from the audience.


Also going around today is the accusation that Clinton was wearing an ear piece.

https://www.zerocensorship.com/uncen...l-forum-320171
Hillary tended to not answer any of the questions from the audience directly instead choosing to filibuster. At least Trump answered a few of the questions directly and succinctly, especially the one regards to an undocumented alien and military service.

Both came across poorly overall, but she came across worse (though Lauer may have come across poorest of all).
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Hillary tended to not answer any of the questions from the audience directly instead choosing to filibuster. At least Trump answered a few of the questions directly and succinctly, especially the one regards to an undocumented alien and military service.

Both came across poorly overall, but she came across worse (though Lauer may have come across poorest of all).
I love how answering questions with some substance and length = filibustering.

The question on undocumented service members highlighted Trumps absolute ignorance on the subject. This is a non-controversial, long-held process that allows non-documented people with a green card to be on a fast track to citizenship once honorably discharged. There have been 130,000 of these people over the last 15 years. The best i could tell from Trump is that he had no idea this existed already, and that he thought it was almost a non-existent phenomenon, that he would deal with it in a "special way" - leaving open the option that he wouldn't allow them to serve.
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It's impossible not to see the gender dimensions of the interviews yesterday. A woman not smiling or being "irritated" is somehow worse than a buffon who always looks irritated and is spilling out BS and factuallty proven lies in public without interruption from the interviewer.

First (and second, and third) question for Hillary: emails. First question for Trump: "why do you want to be President". You're not recruiting an intern, Lauer.

Here's the best line you'll read about the debate;

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But where Mr. Lauer treated Mrs. Clinton like someone running for president, he treated Mr. Trump like someone running to figure out how to be president, eventually.
He actually said "nobody would expect you" to have spent time reading/learning about foreign policy. What the fuck.

That whole interview was a travesty. And that folks somehow think Trump came out looking better speaks as much about Lauer as it does about them.
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I love how answering questions with some substance and length = filibustering.

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If she had actually addressed the actual question posed, I wouldn't have used the term, but she generally never provided an actual answer to folks' questions.
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If she had actually addressed the actual question posed, I wouldn't have used the term, but she generally never provided an actual answer to folks' questions.
As opposed to "I have a secret plan to fight ISIS"?
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I watched the forum last night.

Clinton was slower and longer with her replies than Trump.
Because of this Trump received more questions from the audience.


Also going around today is the accusation that Clinton was wearing an ear piece.

https://www.zerocensorship.com/uncen...l-forum-320171
That's just a special medical implant in case she had another stroke. Duh.
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If she had actually addressed the actual question posed, I wouldn't have used the term, but she generally never provided an actual answer to folks' questions.


I'm not sure how you're getting this.

I'm reading the transcript and instead of posting all the text here, I'll summarize.

First question on emails
Answered directly with detail (for the hundredth time)

Next question from audience - Shocker - emails/classified material again
Answered directly again, with even more detail.

Next - Iraq vote
Answered fully, honestly taking full responsibility that she made a mistake in giving Bush authority

Next - Iran Deal
Very full answer, cut off several times by Lauer, but she pressed to try and give more context and detail. (These are not 30 second answer questions, at least when answered by someone that knows actual facts about them)

Next - The VA
while she provided detail of knowing some of the in depth problems, I admit, she didn't give solutions, other than she will work to fix it.

Next - Vet Suicide
Fully answered, as she had just rolled out a full plan the week before on Veteran's mental health programs.

Next - ISIS/engaging in wars
Lauer tells her she has to rush to answer this. She answers about not getting pulled into a ground war again, using different tactics with the fighters on the ground there, and focusing on taking out leadership with increased intelligence. etc...

Next - terrorist attacks
Answers as fully as possible in 1 minute allotted
Increased online presence, increased European action to help, keeping those on terrorist list from buying guns, etc..


I think she gave as full of answers as she could given the ludicrous time frame and it was miles ahead of Trumps answers which maybe all but one, were utter nonsense.
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Did she admit how unlikable she is? Cause it's important.....
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