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Old 08-14-2016, 10:28 AM   #256
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Yeah, I didn't refer to her as Hillary or Mrs. Clinton.


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Old 08-14-2016, 03:44 PM   #257
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Someone's sexual flings should generally never be a part of the political conversation unless the politician lies about them as it leads to a lot of questions about their honesty. Bill did nothing wrong to the American people until he lied about the Lewinski affair. The affair itself was nothing worth mentioning.

My issue with Hillary is essentially lying about the reality of their marriage and also trying to slander and silence women that have come forward against Bill which is completely the opposite of feminism.

And I like how every question about Hillary Clinton's ethics at this point turns into a but Donald Trump... moment from her supporters. As if we're supposed to just go along with potential high-level corruption, smearing assault victims, etc. just because Donald Trump is also a monster.

If anything, we should only be focused on Hillary Clinton because she is the next President of the United States which is why all of this does, in fact, matter.
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My issue with Hillary is essentially lying about the reality of their marriage and also trying to slander and silence women that have come forward against Bill which is completely the opposite of feminism.
Do you have any links regarding the validity of those claims? I've heard people claiming that as well, but have not seen anything worthwhile backing it up. (i.e., articles/sites with an anti-Clinton bias)
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And I like how every question about Hillary Clinton's ethics at this point turns into a but Donald Trump... moment from her supporters.
Because for many of us it's the main reason we're voting for her?
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My issue with Hillary is essentially lying about the reality of their marriage
You don't get to define any one else's marriage. Not hers, not mine, not Trump's. You only get to define your marriage.

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and also trying to slander and silence women that have come forward against Bill
See Cori's post.


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which is completely the opposite of feminism.
Please, explain what feminism is.
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If only John were running for POTUS. Joan could be his running mate.

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Pics or it didn't happen
Sorry, I'm low tech and I lived through it...don't want to go porno either
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Donald Trump raped his first wife, but that's fine because Hillary Clinton didn't divorce her husband.
evidence of rape?? sure he has been divorced, but his whole family was at the RNC
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but his whole family was at the RNC

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evidence of rape?? sure he has been divorced, but his whole family was at the RNC

Not his first two wives.
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...and, they all get along swimmingly, kids stepkids, not sure if the past wives were there, so I can't say how he does get along with his exes, that could go either way...
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...and, they all get along swimmingly, kids stepkids, not sure if the past wives were there, so I can't say how he does get along with his exes, that could go either way...

Damn, well then I'm convinced he's definitely the family values candidate. If all his children act like they get along on TV, then he gets my vote. We should definitely sweep all his indiscretions under the rug and focus on Bill. Thanks for shining the light.


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The American public has a right to know if Ivana Trump really did accuse her husband of raping her during their 1990 divorce proceedings, two news outlets argued Thursday when they asked a state court to take the unusual step of unsealing Donald Trump's matrimonial file.

Lawyers for the New York Times and the Gannett newspaper chain argue in papers filed in Manhattan Supreme Court that allegation — which Trump has denied — and the mogul’s views about women and the history of how he has treated the women in his life are issues in the presidential campaign for the twice divorced Republican nominee.


Divorce records are almost always sealed by law in New York State courts but the lawyers argue that judges have the power to open the record in "special circumstances" and Trump's campaign — including his statements about rival Hillary Clinton’s marital woes — make it necessary for a judge to pull back the curtain for voters.

The filing notes that a 1993 biography of Trump reported that Ivana Trump told friends that her husband had "raped" her in 1989 during a fit of rage, but during the current campaign, she issued a statement saying her words should not be "interpreted in a literal or criminal sense."
Guess we'll find out soon enough.

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In case there's still somebody out there who thinks that Trump is a successful businessman who gives a shit about anybody other than himself: I Survived ‘Trump’ Magazine—Barely - POLITICO Magazine
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Not good news! He does need to answer for that, would he be different now...? Doesn't make me dislike Hillary any less...a "lesser of two evils" decision this cycle?

I do anticipate quite a battle when the debates start...
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