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Old 03-24-2015, 07:40 PM   #1
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US Presidential Election 2016...because it's never too early

So, we have our first official candidate.

Ted Cruz.

In 24 hours he's made more gaffes than Romney in a month. My favorite is the irony of him signing up for Obamacare after losing his wife's insurance.

Ted Cruz says he's going on Obamacare - Adam B. Lerner - POLITICO

But the weirdest may be the story he told about how he stopped listening to Rock music after 9/11. The hell?

Ted Cruz: I stopped listening to rock music after 9/11 - Kendall Breitman - POLITICO

The Daily Show's coverage of his announcement makes me sad that Jon Stewart won't be around next year to cover this clusterfuck of an election.

Democalypse 2016 - Ted Cruz Is In - The Daily Show - Video Clip | Comedy Central
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Yeah, I wonder what the birthers are gonna say about him being born in Canada?
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I work for the Fed. Don't get me started on this guy, and the horse he rode in on. He is the worst possible candidate the GOP could nominate. He would be a fucking disaster for this country. Of course, the other board i frequent (car forum) is chock full of middle aged, middle class white dudes, and they all love him. Texas Quit giving us these idiotic moronic dumbfucks for candidates. Just stop it. If he wants to be President, then let texas secede and he can be their goddamned president. (sorry for anyone here who is from texas)

Even some of his own party cannot stand him:

GOP Peter King dismisses Ted Cruz as 'carnival barker' - CNN.com

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Updated 9:16 AM ET, Tue March 24, 2015

Washington (CNN)Rep. Peter King called Sen. Ted Cruz a "big mouth" who "basically led the Republican Party over the cliff" and dismissed Sen. Rand Paul as an "isolationist" on Monday as he said their party should ignore those two candidates for its 2016 presidential nomination.

King's sharpest comments were directed at Cruz.

"To me, he's a guy with a big mouth and no results," the New York Republican told CNN's Wolf Blitzer in an interview on "The Situation Room."

"We have very, very complex issues facing the country today, and he goes out of his way to oversimplify," King said of Cruz. "Ted Cruz may be an intelligent person, but he doesn't carry out an intelligent debate. He oversimplifies, he exaggerates ... he doesn't provide leadership and he has no real experience."

King, who is considering his own campaign for the White House, also took aim at another freshman senator who's likely to enter the 2016 race -- Kentucky's Rand Paul.

He said Paul is a "nice guy" but far too much of an "isolationist" for his liking.

"His views would basically remove the U.S. from having a real role to play in the world, and his mindset -- when you look at things he's said over the years, in effect blaming the United States for problems around the world, somehow that it's our fault," King said. "To me that's a bad mindset for the commander-in-chief of the United States to be going into office with."

He said there are several Republican presidential candidates he could support. Among them, King said, are former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker and Ohio Gov. John Kasich.

"We have a lot of talent out there," he said. "I just don't see Ted Cruz and Rand Paul being part of that talent pool."

King's doing little to hide his frustrations with freshman senators who are courting the GOP's most conservative and libertarian factions.

Earlier Monday, King had issued a written statement criticizing Cruz's announcement that he was running in 2016 and said the Texas Republican isn't qualified to serve as president.

"Shutting down the federal government and reading Dr. Seuss on the Senate floor are the marks of a carnival barker not the leader of the free world," King said in a written statement on Monday.

King's statement references a Cruz speech on the Senate floor that last more than 20 hours, railing against Obamacare in 2013.

King has been a vocal Cruz critic since the government shutdown that fall, blaming him for the standoff and calling him a "fraud."

Cruz and other conservatives pressed House Republican leaders to push a strategy to defund Obamacare as part of the annual legislation to fund federal agencies. The fight over the issue triggered a closure of the government for more than two weeks. House GOP leaders ultimately relented and passed a spending bill without the health care provision, and later acknowledged the strategy damaged their standing in public opinion polls.

King, a senior member of both the Homeland Security and Intelligence committees, has traveled to some early primary states and said he's mulling a potential 2016 bid because he believes the Republican party needs to nominate someone who will press a strong national security agenda.

Another potential GOP presidential contender took aim at Cruz on Monday. South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham, speaking to the Council on Foreign Relations, scoffed when asked how a President Cruz would handle a nuclear crisis.

"Ted with nukes, Ted with nukes, let's see ..." he joked, drawing laughter from the crowd. "I dunno what Ted would do, but he should come up here and answer these questions, don't you think?"

Graham is openly contemplating a presidential bid and has also been trying to establish himself as the national security candidate in the soon-to-be crowded field.

Im ready for Hillary, or Warren, hell, anyone who can defeat the tea party. If you know me you would know what a thing this is for me to say. (sorry for the rant)
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Cruz makes W look like an intellectual.


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http://www.forbes.com/fdc/welcome_mjx_mobile.html

Here's a great article from Forbes about who Cruz is really running for. If he's elected he'll only represent white, evangelical Christians, he doesn't give a shit about anyone else. Choosing to have his announcement at Liberty University (which has a center for "Creation Studies") and the explicitly religious language that made up most of his announcement show that. Luckily, (and I say this with 100% confidence) he will not be president.


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Karl Rove-Ted Cruz 2016!
That's a winner for sure!


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The irony of requiring students to attend the announcement at a school named Liberty will always make me smile.

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The irony of requiring students to attend the announcement at a school named Liberty
I was thinking the same thing. Not a fan of Ted Cruz, but we shall see how far he gets.
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Welcome to Forbes

Here's a great article from Forbes about who Cruz is really running for. If he's elected he'll only represent white, evangelical Christians, he doesn't give a shit about anyone else. Choosing to have his announcement at Liberty University (which has a center for "Creation Studies") and the explicitly religious language that made up most of his announcement show that. Luckily, (and I say this with 100% confidence) he will not be president.


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Cruz probably doesn't get the nomination because he is just too divisive. He might be somebody's (Jeb) VP pick though. Assuming of course, he doesn't pull too many stunts in the primaries and debates and completely piss off the rest of the GOP field.

He might be 2016's version of ass juice Santorum, which is a great thing for Democrats, because he will look down upon anyone who isn't white, christian, and heterosexual. And of course this would be well documented by everyone (except Faux news).

As we learned last time around, nothing gets people to the polls like voting against an endless display of bigotry, real or manufactured.
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Ted Cruz looks like a wax figure.
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Keep on bringing on the most divisive candidates, GOP! The more wackadoo, the better.

Ted Cruz is a good start.

A lot of my fellow Wisconsinite Facebook friends are freaking out about Scott Walker. I'd like to think he is also too divisive or "far right" to be a serious contender, but I feel like I don't know enough about it to know for sure.
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Ted Cruz is well aware he's not going to win the nomination. This isn't about actually becoming president. This is about Ted Cruz getting attention and building his brand.
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Cruz probably doesn't get the nomination because he is just too divisive. He might be somebody's (Jeb) VP pick though. Assuming of course, he doesn't pull too many stunts in the primaries and debates and completely piss off the rest of the GOP field.



He might be 2016's version of ass juice Santorum, which is a great thing for Democrats, because he will look down upon anyone who isn't white, christian, and heterosexual. And of course this would be well documented by everyone (except Faux news).



As we learned last time around, nothing gets people to the polls like voting against an endless display of bigotry, real or manufactured.

My guess is that Scott Walker is gonna get the nomination; Bush's name will prevent him from getting the nomination, but I could be wrong. You're right that Cruz is too divisive, today Peter King called him a "carnival barker" and my best guess is that a quarter to a third of Republicans share that sentiment.


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