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Old 05-27-2015, 07:56 PM   #436
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Ass Juice has now joined the GOP race:

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Ass Juice is a worthy title for this has-been
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The Rick Santorum Record: The original Ted Cruz, but with George W. Bush baggage
As a presidential candidate, former U.S. Sen. Rick Santorum, who was once a trailblazer, would face a field of opponents who have staked out positions a lot like his own. (Photo: Mark Wilson/Getty Images)

Reigning 2012 Iowa caucus victor and former Sen. Rick Santorum is expected to announce another presidential bid Wednesday, jumping into a 2016 Republican field crowded with candidates just like him — socially conservative current and former U.S. senators.

And though Santorum was in many ways the prototype for the wave of tea party lawmakers who went to Washington in 2010 — brash, unapologetically conservative, disliked by his Senate colleagues — he must now distinguish himself from opponents molded in his likeness while simultaneously grappling with issues that defined the Republican establishment a decade ago but look different today, such as the Iraq War.

As a senator, Santorum didn’t seem to care for Capitol decorum or what his colleagues thought of him, which at the time was rare but now is par for the course. Former Nebraska Sen. Bob Kerrey was famously overheard asking a colleague whether “Santorum” was “Latin for” the name of a bodily orifice used to describe a person you might not think so highly of. Sen. Mark Hatfield, R-Ore., reportedly had equally choice and disdainful words, characterizing Santorum as both young and a “little” something that emanates from that aforementioned bodily orifice.

In other words, Santorum was 20 years ago to his contemporaries what his 2016 opponents Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky and (especially) Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas are to theirs now.

And yet, Santorum has something that the Santorum 2.0s do not have: 16 years of inside-the-Beltway experience, comprising four years in the House and 12 years in the Senate. The length of his résumé, and voting record, throws a wrench into what has become a significant piece of the conservative political narrative, which is to embrace the state of being a political outsider over all else.

Santorum’s congressional record is largely what would be expected by a voter who knew him only through his brief but relatively successful 2012 presidential campaign: Of the six laws for which he was lead sponsor, two related to abortion rights. One of those measures was the Fetus Farming Prohibition Act of 2006, approved around the same time that then-President George W. Bush planned a veto of a bill to expand stem cell research. The law made the farming of fetuses and embryos for research purposes illegal, even though one of the co-sponsors at the time said the “practice isn’t under serious scientific consideration.”

The other law championed by Santorum was the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act of 2003, prohibiting late-term abortions. Santorum, like many other longtime members of Congress, also effectively spearheaded several post-office namings and recreational park expansions.

He introduced, as a sponsor or co-sponsor, 2,088 bills, 86 of which became law, according to the Library of Congress’ congressional database.

But as much as Santorum was a pain in the side of his colleagues and a social conservative, he also was inextricably tied to former President George W. Bush at the time of his Senate defeat in 2006 to Bob Casey, a Democrat who still holds the seat.

Santorum had leveraged his conservative bona fides to get a seat at the Senate leadership table, something current conservatives seem less intent on doing — perhaps because they’re all running for president — and was a staunch defender of the Iraq War. His race against Casey was one of the most-watched of the 2006 cycle, and the New York Times, writing about his defeat then, highlighted what could end up being a weakness in a primary where Jeb Bush, brother of George W., is on the ticket.

“A favorite among social conservatives, [Santorum] ran as a strong supporter of the war in Iraq and tried to paint Mr. Casey as a captive of a liberal party that could not be trusted on values or national defense,” the New York Times wrote, adding that Santorum’s opponent portrayed him “as the party captive, pointing to a voting record that tied him closely to Mr. Bush in a state where exit polls showed 6 in 10 voters disapproving of the president’s job performance. ‘When two politicians are agreeing 98 percent of the time, one of them isn’t necessary,’ Mr. Casey said in a frequent campaign line.”

Jeb Bush has struggled with multiple questions about the Iraq War and whether he would have authorized it, which has led to every other GOP candidate being asked similar questions about an active battle that has technically ended but has created a new, geopolitically complicated situation in the Middle East that could ultimately require even more American military engagement than the current air campaign against Islamic State fighters.

In a packed GOP debate — if Santorum even can qualify to be on the stage — the former senator would have a liability on the Iraq issue: He will be one of only two people (if current Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, as expected, gets in the race) to have actually voted for the war. And Graham is framing his candidacy on being a war hawk, deriding the rest of the field for not being strong enough on terrorism or national security issues.

That’s not quite Santorum’s angle into the race, but with so many other conservatives in the mix, it’s not clear what is. Moreover, even in the past four years, the landscape on social issues — Santorum’s bread and butter with the base — has evolved. A record 60 percent of Americans support gay marriage, including 37 percent of Republicans (up 15 points from 2012) and 64 percent of Independents, according to a Gallup survey taken earlier this month.

As Santorum tries to navigate his way between new Republican conservative politics and old, the coming weeks will likely be interesting and defining ones for the one-time Iowa caucus winner.
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Ass Juice has now joined the GOP race:

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lol. what a fucking idiot.
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Old 05-28-2015, 09:12 AM   #441
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Well, I guess, there'll be another Addams Family portrait on concession night, right? They must be getting up in years now.
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Old 05-28-2015, 10:53 AM   #442
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Well, I guess, there'll be another Addams Family portrait on concession night, right? They must be getting up in years now.
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I actually feel kind of sorry for his children, they probably shouldn't be dragged into all of this political BS but then these politicians love to parade their children around like they are a circus act anyways.

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can we talk about the Duggars? you know, the family of 70 who has the son who works for a famous anti-gay hate group (the Family Research Council) -- as well as a mother who thinks transgendered people are child molestors (irony!) -- who admitted to molesting several of his sisters?

Ex-trooper: Duggars hid full extent of abuse

and these people are not all that fringe. they have/had a reality show on a major cable network (TLC). this is not the Westboro Baptist Church.

of course, because of man's inherent sinful nature, molestation is not a crime, it's just sin, and without the everlasting redemptive love of Jesus Christ in this fallen world, we're all just one unsupervised night away from molesting children.

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There are many who seem shocked that a child from a Christian family would do such things. While it is always alarming when we find out about our children’s sins, we should not be surprised. Christians (and many other reasonable people) believe that we are all born with a sinful nature. David, king of Israel spoke of his inborn sin like this when he was repenting of his adultery and murder by proxy: “Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.” Psalm 51:5. The prophet Isaiah concurs. “But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.” Isaiah 64:6. While not all of our sins find a way to manifest themselves externally we all know the corruption that is present in each of our hearts. It is a mercy of God that he restrains the evil of mankind otherwise we would have destroyed ourselves long ago. Many times it is simply lack of opportunity or fear of consequences that keep us from falling into grievous sin even though our fallen hearts would love to indulge the flesh. We should not be shocked that this occurred in the Duggar’s home, we should rather be thankful to God if we have been spared such, and pray that he would keep us and our children from falling.

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because that's exactly the type of spokesperson the FRC deserves.

what disgusting horseshit.
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That quote is from the family of one of his brothers-in-law.

It's revolting to suggest that the reason the rest of us are not child molesters is because of lack of opportunity.
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I can't think of a coherent thought about the whole situation beyond "Fuck those fucking fuckersons."
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George Pataki is in. I think some people just want to bump up their speaking fees.

Huckabee is an enigma to me to be polling so well amongst the field. He must have some cult of viewers who are fanboys.
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I'd rather we didn't.
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George Pataki is in. I think some people just want to bump up their speaking fees.

Huckabee is an enigma to me to be polling so well amongst the field. He must have some cult of viewers who are fanboys.
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I can't think of a coherent thought about the whole situation beyond "Fuck those fucking fuckersons."
What reasonable person has 19 children anyway? I have never watched the show, but are any of them adopted or are they all just fresh from the Duggar oven?
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As someone who is vocal about supporting reproductive choices (both for the children you have and those that you don't have), I admit I have a damned hard time not judging them about having 19 kids. (Although my judgment lies more with the Quiverfull crap.)
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