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Old 08-28-2017, 11:34 AM   #136
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It's amazing given how these Democrats are doing everything in their power to oppress the black community, by for example, inventing Globalization and inviting Mexican rapists to pick strawberries (a typically black pursuit?), that almost no members of the AA community voted for Trump? Or Republicans in general.

I guess AEON must be supposin' that they're collectively too stupid to know what's good for them? How else would you explain a community voting like a monolith on a scale much greater than any other community?

Also, AEON, your economy is doing well now and your president's approval ratings are in the mid 30s...which is unprecedented, look it up.

I'd also like to see on which grounds the Republicans are going to win even more Congressional seats in 2018. Not even they believe that one, must be something magic in the MAGA water you're drinking.
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I surely hope the Democrats didn't actually target the black communities while at the same time represent them, I was only suggesting it was a consequence of mass immigration.
But what you're missing, what you're failing to grasp is that this very suggestion is in and of itself racist - as it suggests that the black community is only capable of doing the jobs that immigrants are willing to do for cheap.

You also selectively skim over all of the various laws and tactics that were used over the years to keep large portions of the black community in a never ending cycle of poverty. You happily forget that southen Dixiecrats, many or whom were responsible for your Jim Crow and whatnot, jumped ship to the Republican party during the civil rights movement and just paint with a broad brush.

Shit, you even assume that everyone you're debating with considers themselves to be a Democrat or a member of the "left."
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Old 08-28-2017, 01:17 PM   #138
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But what you're missing, what you're failing to grasp is that this very suggestion is in and of itself racist - as it suggests that the black community is only capable of doing the jobs that immigrants are willing to do for cheap.
Please read back a few pages. We were talking about how the black working class was just starting establish itself when the mass immigration of the 1960s hit their towns like a job eating tsunami. I am suggesting had the 1965 Immigration Act not been passed, their employment situation would have continued to improve, their wages would have steadily risen, and that we would see much healthier black middle class today (equal in size and impact in respect to their percentage of the population).
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Please read back a few pages. We were talking about how the black working class was just starting establish itself when the mass immigration of the 1960s hit their towns like a job eating tsunami. I am suggesting had the 1965 Immigration Act not been passed, their employment situation would have continued to improve, their wages would have steadily risen, and that we would see much healthier black middle class today (equal in size and impact in respect to their percentage of the population).
Oh, so now you're arguing up until 1965 they were on the path to success?
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Donald Trump pardoned noted racist Joe Arpaio as a hurricane was approaching Texas because the ratings would be high.

He's a fucking piece of trash.
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It has simply become harder for any person in the lower classes or lower middle class to improve their station in life in America, regardless of race. There is less social upward mobility, due in large part to trickle down economics and the concentration of wealth in the hands of a few. There has been far less emphasis on educational assistance, and the result has been a stagnation of economic advancement. Blaming the immigrant population is a simplistic solution to complex economic factors. In addition, limiting the voting rights of the black population is unlikely to help them advance.
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Also, I certainly believe that a black person (or any person) can be a racist. My point was that, lacking power, their acts of racism will have a more limited "lashing out" sort of quality. I'm sorry if I was unclear.
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It has simply become harder for any person in the lower classes or lower middle class to improve their station in life in America, regardless of race. .
It is still fairly easy to achieve a middle class life in America.

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There is less social upward mobility, due in large part to trickle down economics and the concentration of wealth in the hands of a few. .
I agree - certainly on the concentration of wealth in the hands of so few.

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There has been far less emphasis on educational assistance, and the result has been a stagnation of economic advancement.
More technical schools for US citizens. Ask the companies that need the STEM talent to subsidize - maybe as a tax credit. There is a strong demand for electricians, welders, heavy equipment operators, wind turbine repair, network engineers, system administrators...etc. These jobs pay well and only require 2-3 years of training (many cases far less). I'm just brainstorming here...


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Blaming the immigrant population is a simplistic solution to complex economic factors. In addition, limiting the voting rights of the black population is unlikely to help them advance.
Anytime you flood the market with an excess supply of labor, you weaken their bargaining power.

I'm not sure who is advocating limiting black votes. My only requirement is proof of citizenship. Why would anyone be against that?
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Also, I certainly believe that a black person (or any person) can be a racist. My point was that, lacking power, their acts of racism will have a more limited "lashing out" sort of quality. I'm sorry if I was unclear.
Thank you for clarifying.
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It is still fairly easy to achieve a middle class life in America.




Are you going to make up your mind? So, this wasn't about jobs? Truth is spoken. So this was all about hate?

A couple of Natural Lights my friend?
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A couple of Natural Lights my friend?
Racist but funny
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Are you going to make up your mind? So, this wasn't about jobs? Truth is spoken. So this was all about hate?
Compared to the rest of the world...
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