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Old 05-17-2017, 09:16 PM   #241
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GOP can't possibly defend this whole thing, are they pretend like there's nothing wrong with this situation?
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Old 05-17-2017, 09:18 PM   #242
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GOP can't possibly defend this whole thing, are they pretend like there's nothing wrong with this situation?
Well, they've literally been hiding in their offices and refusing to talk to anyone who tries to interview them. Their strategy right now seems to be, "Let's just bury our heads in the sand and ignore everything." Similar to how they keep running away from town halls.

Like I said earlier, they're cowards, plain and simple.
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Old 05-17-2017, 09:56 PM   #243
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It really is as bad as we thought, isn't it.
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Old 05-17-2017, 10:05 PM   #244
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It really is as bad as we thought, isn't it.
If they knew Flynn was compromised before inauguration day and still hired him, and still had him involved in everything?

It may be worse than we thought
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Old 05-17-2017, 10:24 PM   #245
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Pence, Flynn, Trump, Manafort, Ryan so far. Anyone I've left out? The whole GOP is going to be wiped out.
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Old 05-17-2017, 11:39 PM   #247
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Trump will have to produce his tax returns now, subpoena perhaps. I can't see those returns being benign, if they were he'd already have released them.
Surely today's events are enough to lead to the unearthing of the tax returns which may be enough to see the end of Trump.

There's still one thing though... to date Trump himself can largely pass everything off as either someone else fucking up, or of himself being naive. There's still no rock solid evidence he's a crook.
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Old 05-18-2017, 01:47 AM   #248
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Reports about Flynn's consulting firm being contracted by Turkey were out before or shortly after election, so that shouldn't come as news. I think what wasn't disclosed was that this had already been under investigation at that time.

But they have the perfect distraction up their sleeves:

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President Trump will deliver a speech about radical Islam to leaders of Muslim countries when he is in Saudi Arabia for his first foreign trip, the White House said Tuesday.
Donald Trump Will Give a Speech on Islam in Saudi Arabia | Time.com

It's said the main speechwriter is Stephen Miller, the guy with the dead eyes who formerly worked with Michele Bachmann. Should be a pretty balanced and well-founded speech.



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“There’s…there’s two people, I think, Putin pays: [California Representative Dana] Rohrabacher and Trump…[laughter]…swear to God.”
According to the transcript, speaker Paul Ryan immediately responded: “This is an off the record … [laughter] … NO LEAKS … [laughter] … alright?!”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...rthy-recording

Considering all the laughter mentioned in the transcript, it rather sounds they were joking around. That'd hardly make a compelling case, especially since it doesn't prove anything.
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I don't really see the humor in Russia, or Putin himself personally bankrolling Donald Trump's campaign, finances, what have you to undermine our democracy.
The silver lining is that you get to be in the shoes of the people in the countries the US has inflicted this upon.
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I don't know how the various state departments cooperate in an investigation like this, or who holds final authority over evidence etc. But do any of us really believe that a Republican Congress will impeach Trump, regardless of how strong the evidence turns out to be against him?
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Yes, if his impeachment is tied to what he did before he was president, ie before he was endorsed by the GOP.
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I don't know how the various state departments cooperate in an investigation like this, or who holds final authority over evidence etc. But do any of us really believe that a Republican Congress will impeach Trump, regardless of how strong the evidence turns out to be against him?


I'm sure there's enough petty politicians who are playing the Trump fiddle right now that absolutely know deep inside that he's a problem, and would seize the opportunity only if it was guaranteed.
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I don't know how the various state departments cooperate in an investigation like this, or who holds final authority over evidence etc. But do any of us really believe that a Republican Congress will impeach Trump, regardless of how strong the evidence turns out to be against him?
i think the comey memo (how ironic) and the idea that he leaked classified information to the russians are turning points.

ultimately i don't believe he'll be impeached - he'll figure out a way to weasel out of it by resigning, parlay it into his own TV network and/or 8pm time slot on FoxNews, and declare it a victory... somehow.

It's the Trump Plan of Success
1. Fuck things up beyond repair
2. Make it somebody else's problem
3. ??????
4. Profit
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