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Old 03-26-2003, 12:33 PM   #31
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and that's just the death toll ppl


I'm not talking children left as orphans...or women who were raped.


The human toll is more than any of use can imagine in thei lifetime.

The indian government deptie all this grants rights to muslims that hindus just don't have....that's an example.

Pakistan should have never been created...yet it's taken as old hat BUT...israel which jews have a historical right to.is a big conflict.


There are 10 MILLION refugees living in camps outside delhi..because of genocide against HINDUS in kashmir....I've seen them..it's not pretty



10 million ppl displaced...may be greter than the entire population of palestine.....10 million ppl refugees in their own country.
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3 million deaths should not b ignored.
10 million refugees?

i feel for you arun.

wow.
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Old 03-26-2003, 03:02 PM   #33
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What the heck....3 million people dead.....

How has the world managed to ignore this?

That is a huge number!!!!!!!!!!

Now I need to start reading about this area of the world.

Peace Arun.
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While the 1971 genocide of Hindus in eastern Pakistan is completely reprehensible and horrible, I don't see why a person can't be outraged over BOTH that event and the Israel/Palenstine crisis.
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While the 1971 genocide of Hindus in eastern Pakistan is completely reprehensible and horrible, I don't see why a person can't be outraged over BOTH that event and the Israel/Palenstine crisis.
well my point is meeganie..despite the fact that the hindus were completly and UTTERLY screwed. ...India doesn't use terrorism as a means of supporting it's political agenda.
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well my point is meeganie..despite the fact that the hindus were completly and UTTERLY screwed. ...India doesn't use terrorism as a means of supporting it's political agenda.
I don't think anyone here is supporting the use of terrorism.
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yes but everytime the palestinians are called on terrorism


it's always



"yes the suicide bombers are killing kids BUT.....we were screwed ...etc...etc...etc"
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I can't support that much aid to a country bulldozing houses with people in them, olive groves known to be their owners' only source of income, shelling refugee camps... in violation of a hell of a lot more UN resolutions than Iraq... yes, anyway.
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Old 03-26-2003, 08:57 PM   #39
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You're right Kristie,

while Mr. Bush used the fact that Saddam Hussein has not complied with UN resolutions as an excuse to launch his ``pre-emptive" war, Israel has not complied with substancially more. Here's a list I found on the U.N. site displaying Israel's constant breaking of resolutions between 1955-1992 - 65 resolutions to be exact.

Many more resolutions in the past decade have accumulated ballooning that number.... I'm not sure to how many resolutions though, but I know they've increased substancially since 2000. Along the way, the United States has vetoed several other resolutions that were critical to Israel... Meanwhile, the U.S. continues to support this violent, inhumane, unjust regime through billions of dollars in aid.

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1955-1992:
* Resolution 106: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for Gaza raid".
* Resolution 111: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for raid on Syria that killed fifty-six people".
* Resolution 127: " . . . 'recommends' Israel suspends it's 'no-man's zone' in Jerusalem".
* Resolution 162: " . . . 'urges' Israel to comply with UN decisions".
* Resolution 171: " . . . determines flagrant violations' by Israel in its attack on Syria".
* Resolution 228: " . . . 'censures' Israel for its attack on Samu in the West Bank, then under Jordanian control".
* Resolution 237: " . . . 'urges' Israel to allow return of new 1967 Palestinian refugees".
* Resolution 248: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for its massive attack on Karameh in Jordan".
* Resolution 250: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to refrain from holding military parade in Jerusalem".
* Resolution 251: " . . . 'deeply deplores' Israeli military parade in Jerusalem in defiance of Resolution 250".
* Resolution 252: " . . . 'declares invalid' Israel's acts to unify Jerusalem as Jewish capital".
* Resolution 256: " . . . 'condemns' Israeli raids on Jordan as 'flagrant violation".
* Resolution 259: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's refusal to accept UN mission to probe occupation".
* Resolution 262: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for attack on Beirut airport".
* Resolution 265: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for air attacks for Salt in Jordan".
* Resolution 267: " . . . 'censures' Israel for administrative acts to change the status of Jerusalem".
*Resolution 270: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for air attacks on villages in southern Lebanon".
* Resolution 271: " . . . 'condemns' Israel's failure to obey UN resolutions on Jerusalem".
* Resolution 279: " . . . 'demands' withdrawal of Israeli forces from Lebanon".
* Resolution 280: " . . . 'condemns' Israeli's attacks against Lebanon".
* Resolution 285: " . . . 'demands' immediate Israeli withdrawal form Lebanon".
* Resolution 298: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's changing of the status of Jerusalem".
* Resolution 313: " . . . 'demands' that Israel stop attacks against Lebanon".
* Resolution 316: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for repeated attacks on Lebanon".
* Resolution 317: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's refusal to release Arabs abducted in Lebanon".
* Resolution 332: " . . . 'condemns' Israel's repeated attacks against Lebanon".
* Resolution 337: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for violating Lebanon's sovereignty".
* Resolution 347: " . . . 'condemns' Israeli attacks on Lebanon".
* Resolution 425: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon".
* Resolution 427: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to complete its withdrawal from Lebanon.
* Resolution 444: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's lack of cooperation with UN peacekeeping forces".
* Resolution 446: " . . . 'determines' that Israeli settlements are a 'serious
obstruction' to peace and calls on Israel to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention".
* Resolution 450: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to stop attacking Lebanon".
* Resolution 452: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to cease building settlements in occupied territories".
* Resolution 465: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's settlements and asks all member
states not to assist Israel's settlements program".
* Resolution 467: " . . . 'strongly deplores' Israel's military intervention in Lebanon".
* Resolution 468: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to rescind illegal expulsions of
two Palestinian mayors and a judge and to facilitate their return".
* Resolution 469: " . . . 'strongly deplores' Israel's failure to observe the
council's order not to deport Palestinians".
* Resolution 471: " . . . 'expresses deep concern' at Israel's failure to abide
by the Fourth Geneva Convention".
* Resolution 476: " . . . 'reiterates' that Israel's claim to Jerusalem are 'null and void'".
* Resolution 478: " . . . 'censures (Israel) in the strongest terms' for its
claim to Jerusalem in its 'Basic Law'".
* Resolution 484: " . . . 'declares it imperative' that Israel re-admit two deported
Palestinian mayors".
* Resolution 487: " . . . 'strongly condemns' Israel for its attack on Iraq's
nuclear facility".
* Resolution 497: " . . . 'decides' that Israel's annexation of Syria's Golan
Heights is 'null and void' and demands that Israel rescinds its decision forthwith".
* Resolution 498: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to withdraw from Lebanon".
* Resolution 501: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to stop attacks against Lebanon and withdraw its troops".
* Resolution 509: " . . . 'demands' that Israel withdraw its forces forthwith and unconditionally from Lebanon".
* Resolution 515: " . . . 'demands' that Israel lift its siege of Beirut and
allow food supplies to be brought in".
* Resolution 517: " . . . 'censures' Israel for failing to obey UN resolutions
and demands that Israel withdraw its forces from Lebanon".
* Resolution 518: " . . . 'demands' that Israel cooperate fully with UN forces in Lebanon".
* Resolution 520: " . . . 'condemns' Israel's attack into West Beirut".
* Resolution 573: " . . . 'condemns' Israel 'vigorously' for bombing Tunisia
in attack on PLO headquarters.
* Resolution 587: " . . . 'takes note' of previous calls on Israel to withdraw
its forces from Lebanon and urges all parties to withdraw".
* Resolution 592: " . . . 'strongly deplores' the killing of Palestinian students
at Bir Zeit University by Israeli troops".
* Resolution 605: " . . . 'strongly deplores' Israel's policies and practices
denying the human rights of Palestinians.
* Resolution 607: " . . . 'calls' on Israel not to deport Palestinians and strongly
requests it to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention.
* Resolution 608: " . . . 'deeply regrets' that Israel has defied the United Nations and deported Palestinian civilians".
* Resolution 636: " . . . 'deeply regrets' Israeli deportation of Palestinian civilians.
* Resolution 641: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's continuing deportation of Palestinians.
* Resolution 672: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for violence against Palestinians
at the Haram al-Sharif/Temple Mount.
* Resolution 673: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's refusal to cooperate with the United
Nations.
* Resolution 681: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's resumption of the deportation of
Palestinians.
* Resolution 694: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's deportation of Palestinians and
calls on it to ensure their safe and immediate return.
* Resolution 726: " . . . 'strongly condemns' Israel's deportation of Palestinians.
* Resolution 799: ". . . 'strongly condemns' Israel's deportation of 413 Palestinians
and calls for there immediate return.

In recent years... Israel has committed the following horrible offences:

Resolution 1322: October 7, 2000 -- "Deplores the provocation carried out at Al-Haram Al-Sharif in Jerusalem on 28 September 2000, and the subsequent violence there and at other Holy Places. Condemns acts of violence, especially the excessive use of force against Palestinians, resulting in injury and loss of human life."

Resolution 1435: September 24, 2002 -- "Alarmed at the reoccupation of Palestinian cities as well as the severe restrictions imposed on the freedom of movement of persons and good, and gravely concerned at the humanitarian crisis being faced by the Palestinian people."

There's a few more, one that states that zionism = racism.

This, I find this disgusting. Especially considering that the U.S. is granting even more aid to Israel to continue such horrible crimes against humanity.

Anyways, I'm not sure but I think Iraq has 12 to 16 resolutions them. Makes you wonder doesn't it? Well, personally, it pisses me off.

later, michael
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I can't support that much aid to a country bulldozing houses with people in them, olive groves known to be their owners' only source of income, shelling refugee camps... in violation of a hell of a lot more UN resolutions than Iraq... yes, anyway.





..yes but...it's not the number of resolutions your violating..it's the terms of those resolutions resolution 687 clearly states that failure to disarm will result in a revokation of the cease fire.
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Anyways, I'm not sure but I think Iraq has 12 to 16 resolutions them.
17, according to the Administration.
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I'd be curious to know how many cease fires and peace agreements the palestinians have turned down/violated.
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I wouldn't support that much money given to the palestinians either.
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"you tell me india being an example is a joke?....3 million dead bodies is no joke. " - Amna

I never said it was.
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I'm sorry, that quote was from Arun, not me... :S
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