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Old 11-28-2007, 11:59 PM   #961
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Based on what? Polls show Republicans only a few points behind her, and I'm sure I don't need to mention the Zogby poll showing Hillary losing to 5 Republicans.
Polls show who, all Reps only a few points behind her?

Plus let's not forget exit polls showed that Kerry would win last election.
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Old 11-29-2007, 12:04 AM   #962
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we are still very, very early.

but there's no question that things are trending Blue. and even if the Dems lose the White House, they are posed to make even bigger gains in both houses of Congress.
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Old 11-29-2007, 12:11 AM   #963
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Polls show who, all Reps only a few points behind her?

Giuliani and McCain are pretty close to her, Romney is back aways.

http://www.presidentelectionpolls.co...hn-mccain.html

^ An interesting site with a lot of different polls. You can pick a head-to-head matchup, and it will estimate the electoral vote distribution.
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Old 11-29-2007, 12:17 AM   #964
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Giuliani and McCain are pretty close to her, Romney is back aways.

Ok, so how does that contradict what I said? Only one will get the nom, and Giuliani has way too many skeletons in his closet. And Mitt, well I think he doesn't have a chance in hell; wrong religion, has flip flopped too much, and may even prove to be too bigoted even for the Republican party.
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Old 11-29-2007, 12:21 AM   #965
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Giuliani has way too many skeletons in his closet.
I'd say he and Hillary are about even in that department.


Romney would be a longshot if he's the nominee. I like him fine enough, but we're in trouble if he gets the nomination. I'd even say Huckabee has a better chance than Mitt does.
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Old 11-29-2007, 12:26 AM   #966
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I'd say he and Hillary are about even in that department.


In what world are you living in? There is no way a "family values" platform can nominate this guy.

How has Hillary gone against her platform the way Guiliani has?
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Plus let's not forget exit polls showed that Kerry would win last election.
Good point.

Yeah, I don't think a lot of people are too keen on Romney. I could see Huckabee winning the nomination, or perhaps Giuliani. Ron Paul has no chance in hell, sadly.

I don't care, though-out of the remaining people, whoever wins the Republican nomination, I sincerely hope they don't win the White House next year. I really see Clinton taking it. I'd like it if Obama became the Democratic nominee and won the White House, but Clinton looks most likely.

All that said, if it comes down to Clinton vs. whoever becomes the Republican nominee. I'm definitely voting independent next year.

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Old 11-29-2007, 12:38 AM   #968
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I was watching TV earlier, and they were describing how it might end up being a Giuliani-Huckabee ticket. They said that it is looking more and more like Huckabee will win Iowa, Rudy will win NH, Huckabee goes straight to SC and knocks out Fred and the others, Rudy wins the later big states and feels like he owes Huckabee something. It would be quite a pair- a big city guy, somewhat liberal on social issues and a southern hardcore conservative minister.

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It would be quite a pair- a big city guy, somewhat liberal on social issues and a southern hardcore conservative minister.

Liberal on social issues? Where have you been? He sold out to the bigots a long time ago and flip flopped his stances so he could get Robertson's endorement.
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All I know is that the Republicans are rooting for Hillary to win the Dem nomination. I think her presence on the democratic ticket would mobilize Republican voters more than any other potential candidate. So, uh, go Obama!
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i tuned in late, so i missed the veteran's question and the responses. but i did see a few bits. i had to turn the tv off though, because i was too creeped out. romney had basically said the confederate flag represented hatred, and not a single person in there applauded. what decade are we living in again? that pretty much answered the question by the black guy "why don't we vote for you?"


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He sold out to the bigots a long time ago and flip flopped his stances so he could get Robertson's endorement.
Which makes him possibly the most despicable of all of the Republican candidates.
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and by decade i meant century. it's been a long night...
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Is everyone sufficiently creeped out/annoyed now by Mitt's smirk? Or do you need more?
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Is everyone sufficiently creeped out/annoyed now by Mitt's smirk? Or do you need more?
What creeped me out more was Huckabee's entire debate persona. Of all the candidates up there, he was the one who I'd seen the least of, and he just comes off completely rehearsed and fake on every comment he makes. Whether or not it's genuine sentiment he was just creeping me out nonetheless. It's a live event, not a goddamned multiple-take political ad.

Other thoughts:

*Don't like McCain much since he lost his grip on reality a couple of years ago (what the fuck happened to him, he used to be on top of everything???). That said, it was GREAT to see him wipe Mitt all over the deck regarding waterboarding. I despise torture, think it's disgraceful that the US practices waterboarding, and to see him batter Romney over the issue was debate bliss.

*Paul wasn't as strong as he usually is in public forums. He wasn't allowed a lot of time to speak, though.

*This was my first chance to see Romney in a debate, and he's quite good at what he does. Comes off very.........vice presidential. Not presidential, though, only vice.
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