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Old 11-27-2007, 12:00 PM   #916
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I'm supporting Edwards because he is more electable than Hillary is. Now, as it turns out, Obama is also more electable than Hillary is. Both of them are doing very well in Iowa, thank you very much. Yeah, people are sick of Bush. They want the Democrats back in the White House.
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Old 11-27-2007, 06:01 PM   #917
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By Foon Rhee, deputy national political editor November 27, 07

A New York financier calls for a Muslim to be appointed to the next president's Cabinet and relates an interesting reply when he put that issue to Republican presidential hopeful Mitt Romney.

Mansoor Ijaz, who describes himself as an American-born Muslim whose family came from Pakistan, writes in an opinion piece in today's Christian Science Monitor that he attended a private fund-raiser this month for Romney in Las Vegas. Ijaz says he asked Romney whether he would consider a Muslim for a national security post in his Cabinet, since he says radical jihad is the biggest threat facing America.

According to Ijaz, Romney said that based on the proportion of Muslims in the US population, a Cabinet post would not be "justified," though he could "imagine" Muslims serving in lower-level jobs in his administration.

"Romney, whose Mormon faith has become the subject of heated debate in Republican caucuses, wants America to be blind to his religious beliefs and judge him on merit instead," Ijaz writes. "Yet he seems to accept excluding Muslims because of their religion, claiming they're too much of a minority for a post in high-level policymaking. More ironic, that Islamic heritage is what qualifies them to best engage America's Arab and Muslim communities and to help deter Islamist threats."

Romney, interviewed Monday on CNN, was asked about diversity in his inner circle and in appointments.

"Suggesting that we have to fill spots based on checking off boxes of various ethnic groups is really a very inappropriate way to think about we staff positions," he said.

"I'm very pleased that, among my Cabinet members [as Massachusetts governor], for instance, I had several African-American individuals. I had people of different backgrounds. But I don't go in every circumstance I'm in and say, 'OK, how many African-Americans, how many Hispanic-Americans, how many Asian-Americans,' and fill boxes that way.

"I fill responsibilities based upon people's merit and their skill. And, sometimes, it includes many ethnic minorities. And other times, it includes different minorities. But I'm very pleased with my record."
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based on the proportion of Muslims in the US population, a Cabinet post would not be "justified,"




"I fill responsibilities based upon people's merit and their skill.
Little contradiction here I would say. On the one hand he says there is no top-level position for Muslims available, only lower level, and on the other hand he goes by merit and skill.
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Six weeks out from the first round of presidential voting, New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton gets better ratings than Illinois Sen. Barack Obama among African-American voters — a crucial voting bloc in Democratic politics — a new poll shows.

The survey of 750 African-Americans, conducted from Oct. 5 to Nov. 2 and released Tuesday by The Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies, found Clinton was rated favorably by 83 percent of respondents, with 9.7 percent perceiving her negatively.

Obama, meanwhile, garnered favorable ratings of 74.4 percent, with 10.1 percent viewing him negatively.

Former Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina was rated favorably by 45.1 percent of respondents, while 19.1 percent rated him unfavorably, according to the poll, which was sponsored by AARP.

The results offer a glimpse into the views of members among one of the most important Democratic constituencies.

But it covers a national audience rather than targeting individual states.

In Iowa, home of the Jan. 3 first-in-the-nation caucuses, the population is only about 2.1 percent black, according to 2006 Census figures.

In New Hampshire, home to the nation’s kickoff primary, on Jan. 8, it’s a miniscule 0.7 percent.

The picture changes considerably in South Carolina, which, with its Jan. 19 primary, could play a pivotal role in the Democratic nomination fight. The Palmetto State population is 29.4 percent African-American.

Twenty-eight percent of respondents to the poll cited the Iraq war as the top problem facing the country, followed by health care (20 percent), jobs and the economy (15 percent) and education (10 percent).

“What might be called signature issues of the Republican Party — taxes, terrorism, immigration and moral values — are just not resonating with African-American voters,” said David Bositis, senior research associate at the Joint Center.

“Not only are African-Americans not raising these issues when given the chance, but when pressed on which party has the better approach to them, they are clearly favoring the Democrats.”
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By Foon Rhee, deputy national political editor November 27, 07

A New York financier calls for a Muslim to be appointed to the next president's Cabinet and relates an interesting reply when he put that issue to Republican presidential hopeful Mitt Romney.

Mansoor Ijaz, who describes himself as an American-born Muslim whose family came from Pakistan, writes in an opinion piece in today's Christian Science Monitor that he attended a private fund-raiser this month for Romney in Las Vegas. Ijaz says he asked Romney whether he would consider a Muslim for a national security post in his Cabinet, since he says radical jihad is the biggest threat facing America.

According to Ijaz, Romney said that based on the proportion of Muslims in the US population, a Cabinet post would not be "justified," though he could "imagine" Muslims serving in lower-level jobs in his administration.

"Romney, whose Mormon faith has become the subject of heated debate in Republican caucuses, wants America to be blind to his religious beliefs and judge him on merit instead," Ijaz writes. "Yet he seems to accept excluding Muslims because of their religion, claiming they're too much of a minority for a post in high-level policymaking. More ironic, that Islamic heritage is what qualifies them to best engage America's Arab and Muslim communities and to help deter Islamist threats."

Romney, interviewed Monday on CNN, was asked about diversity in his inner circle and in appointments.

"Suggesting that we have to fill spots based on checking off boxes of various ethnic groups is really a very inappropriate way to think about we staff positions," he said.

"I'm very pleased that, among my Cabinet members [as Massachusetts governor], for instance, I had several African-American individuals. I had people of different backgrounds. But I don't go in every circumstance I'm in and say, 'OK, how many African-Americans, how many Hispanic-Americans, how many Asian-Americans,' and fill boxes that way.

"I fill responsibilities based upon people's merit and their skill. And, sometimes, it includes many ethnic minorities. And other times, it includes different minorities. But I'm very pleased with my record."
I would love to see a conservative or a Romney supporter defend this. I would LOVE it.
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What an ASS!!! Shit, now he probably for sure has the Republican vote.
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No kidding.

Good lord, I don't understand what is so difficult about this. I don't care what religion you are, or if you aren't religious at all. All I care about is that you have the qualifications necessary to do the job and that you're fair and just in everything you do. Muslim, Mormon, Catholic, atheist...I. Don't. Care.

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I would love to see a conservative or a Romney supporter defend this. I would LOVE it.
Well I don't think we'll have to wait too long

Tonight is the Republican YouTube debate on CNN, that ought to be entertaining.

Pressed to explain his statement later in the day, Romney said it had been taken out of context.

"His question was did I need to have a Muslim in my Cabinet to be able to confront radical Jihad and would it be important to have a Muslim in my Cabinet," said Romney. "And I said, 'No, I don't think that you have to have a Muslim in the Cabinet to be able to take on radical Jihad anymore than during the Second World War we needed to have a Japanese-American to understand the threat that was coming from Japan or something of that nature.' I just rejected that argument..."

Reached by phone, Ijaz scoffed at such an interpretation of what transpired.

"I can tell you," he said, "that Romney's push back, meaning his statement about the Japanese is all bullshit. He never talked about the Japanese at that point. Everything he said today is simply trying to reconfigure this item, which is he doesn't feel there is a need to put people of Islamic faith into his cabinet."

Moreover, he added, this is not the first time the Massachusetts Republican has made off-the-cuff remarks that Muslims have found insensitive. Indeed, as reported by Talking Points Memo, Romney rejected the idea of appointing a Muslim to a high-ranking White House position at an earlier and, again, private campaign stop.

Irma Aguirre, the former finance director for the Nevada Republican Party, told the Huffington Post about her experience at a Romney fundraiser roughly two months ago:

"I was curious to listen to Romney, I was very impressed by him and I'm kind of undecided about whom to support. Well, at one point, they opened questions to the audience and a gentleman who was with me... raised his hand and posed a question. 'Being that Muslims do not really trust America's leaders, do you think it would be prudent, or would you consider having a Muslim in your cabinet as an adviser to lend credibility to the administration? His response was 'probably not' or 'most likely not.'"

According to Aguirre, Romney pivoted from the question into a discussion on the dangers jihadism posed to America.

"I was shocked and disgusted," she recounted. I felt like "he was assuming that all Muslims were jihadists. And later, I just kind of looked at a friend of mine who is a huge Mitt Romney supporter, she asked me, 'Isn't he great?' and I said, 'absolutely not.'"

Romney's campaign did not respond by time of publication.
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I don't think religion should matter. It doesn't matter to me. What counts is their ability to do the job.
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the republican youtube debate is definitely gonna be interesting.
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it's been very interesting.

does anyone else think that McCain is the only adult in the room?

maybe Ron Paul, but in a wacky, Kucinich kind of way.
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I really like McCain in this debate thus far. I wish he did better in the polls.

I'm glad to see Rudy and Mike double-teaming Romney.
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it's been very interesting.

does anyone else think that McCain is the only adult in the room?

maybe Ron Paul, but in a wacky, Kucinich kind of way.
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And who's the mummy standing in for Fred Thompson?

Sorry, had to be said.
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it's been very interesting.

does anyone else think that McCain is the only adult in the room?

maybe Ron Paul, but in a wacky, Kucinich kind of way.
McCain, much as I've disagreed with some of his stuff over the years, makes more sense than most of the other candidates. So does Ron Paul-you're right, he's the Republican equivalent of Kucinich. I trust those two more than any of the other people on that stage.

I'm just catching this now, missed most of the first hour...anything big worth noting so far?

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I'm just catching this now, missed most of the first hour...anything big worth noting so far?

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A couple heated tiffs between Rudy/Romney and McCain/Paul. Other than those two moments, it's same old, same old.
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