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Old 11-14-2007, 03:40 PM   #811
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you guys are soooo lame.

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Oh! I hope that's directed at me!!!
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I agree, it seems odd to think of that word in universal terms. I've hardly ever heard that word used in reference to a guy. Most of the time I've seen it directed at women (or female dogs). It seems odd to me to call a guy a "bitch".

I've personally never used that word to seriously describe anybody, male or female, 'cause I don't really like to (and the woman in that article-classy, lady. I always love it when I hear women complain about how men should stop using those kinds of words, only for them to turn right around and use them on each other .). I do like "beeyotch", though, just 'cause it sounds funny, but even then I only use that in a joking manner.

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Old 11-14-2007, 04:18 PM   #813
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If it's such a "universal" insult, then how come McCain knew immediately who the woman was referring to, despite her never having named Hillary Clinton? Do you really think if she'd said "How do we beat the fucker" or "How do we beat the asshole" he would have jumped just as readily to the same (correct) conclusion, or just as readily responded with "excellent question"?
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If I do remember correctly, "b*tch" usually has a female connotation attached to it somehere-but only by bigots of course.

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Great link unico which begs another question for the likes of you
The likes of you? I don't respond to that. So please stop using my name too.
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You're the one throwing the term "sexist" around like confetti.

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Agreed.

Actually I like strong women, not abrasive ones, and therin lies the difference between say Hilary and Margret Thacther, or even Nancy Pelosi or Diane Feinstein for that matter.

Hilary bugs alot of ppl esp men more than women, and it's not that she's strong minded, that is a positive trait irrespective of gender.



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Sorry, but you say that Clinton is abrasive and therfore not electable, and then bring Thatcher as an example of a woman that is strong, but not abrasive?

That's great.
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Sorry, but you say that Clinton is abrasive and therfore not electable, and then bring Thatcher as an example of a woman that is strong, but not abrasive?

That's great.
Yes.
She exercised control and dignity on many levels.

Hilary does not.

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I shared Vincent's bemusement; Thatcher definitely had a reputation for being publically imperious and condescending.


I can accept that alternate usage of "bitch" as a gender-neutral slang term is increasing. There are several epithets whose generally understood meaning varies with context, and this is one of them. However, in some contexts it can definitely be an outright slur and not merely a putdown. As can "shrew."
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You're the one throwing the term "sexist" around like confetti.
No I use it when it's called for-and if that irritates you that's no reason to use the term "the likes of you". All your lil comments here reek of code, and some aren't even that subtle. Sometimes there's no need to even read between the lines.
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I shared Vincent's bemusement; Thatcher definitely had a reputation for being publically imperious and condescending.


I can accept that alternate usage of "bitch" as a gender-neutral slang term is increasing. There are several epithets whose generally understood meaning varies with context, and this is one of them. However, in some contexts it can definitely be an outright slur and not merely a putdown. As can "shrew."
And Maragret was no shrew- she was referred to as The Iron Lady.

She was elected on her on merit; not by riding on the shirt tails of a spouse and suspected sex offender.

She kicked a*s.
Hilary will never be a Maragret Thacther.



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I understood the "bitch" here as just the epithet that came to that woman's mind. I don't think it was sexist in this case, just stupid.


^And Bush clearly made use of his father being President before.

But who cares? That's really weak arguments against a politician, or any other person for that matter.
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She was elected on her on merit; not by riding on the shirt tails of a spouse and suspected sex offender.
WTF???
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WTF???
AN OPEN LETTER TO HILLARY CLINTON,

BY JUANITA BROADDRICK

'DO YOU REMEMBER?'
SUNDAY OCT 15, 2000

As I watched Rick Lazio's interview on Fox News this morning, I felt compelled to
write this open letter to you, Mrs. Clinton. Brit Hume asked Mr. Lazio's views
regarding you as a person and how he perceived you as a candidate. Rick Lazio did
not answer the question, but I know that I can. You know it, too.

I have no doubt that you are the same conniving, self-serving person you were
twenty-two years ago when I had the misfortune to meet you. When I see you on
television, campaigning for the New York senate race, I can see the same hypocrisy
in your face that you displayed to me one evening in 1978. You have not changed.

I remember it as though it was yesterday. I only wish that it were yesterday and
maybe there would still be time to do something about what your husband, Bill
Clinton, did to me. There was a political rally for Mr. Clinton's bid for governor of
Arkansas. I had obligated myself to be at this rally prior to my being assaulted by
your husband in April, 1978. I had made up my mind to make an appearance and then
leave as soon as the two of you arrived. This was a big mistake, but I was still in a
state of shock and denial. You had questioned the gentleman who drove you and Mr.
Clinton from the airport. You asked him about me and if I would be at the gathering.
Do you remember? You told the driver, "Bill has talked so much about Juanita", and
that you were so anxious to meet me. Well, you wasted no time. As soon as you
entered the room, you came directly to me and grabbed my hand. Do you remember
how you thanked me, saying "we want to thank you for everything that you do for
Bill". At that point, I was pretty shaken and started to walk off. Remember how you
kept a tight grip on my hand and drew closer to me? You repeated your statement,
but this time with a coldness and look that I have seen many times on television in the
last eight years. You said, "Everything you do for Bill". You then released your grip
and I said nothing and left the gathering.

What did you mean, Hillary? Were you referring to my keeping quiet about the assault
I had suffered at the hands of your husband only two weeks before? Were you
warning me to continue to keep quiet? We both know the answer to that question.
Yes, I can answer Brit Hume's question. You are the same Hillary that you were
twenty years ago. You are cold, calculating and self-serving. You cannot tolerate the
thought that you will soon be without the power you have wielded for the last eight
years. Your effort to stay in power will be at the expense of the state of New York. I
only hope the voters of New York will wake up in time and realize that Hillary Clinton
is not an honorable or an honest person.

I will end by asking if you believe the statements I made on NBC Dateline when Lisa
Myers asked if I had been assaulted and raped by your husband? Or perhaps, you
are like Vice-President Gore and did not see the interview.

Juanita Broaddrick
Arkansas
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I wonder how many letters would come out from your self admitted philandering past if you ever ran?
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