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Old 10-31-2007, 06:23 PM   #541
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Yeah, 'cause that'll really solve the problem . It really worries me that there are people who think that way. I mean, I know people like to laugh at the idea of diplomacy 'cause it's, like, crazy or something, but you know, mankind bombing and killing each other for the past god knows how many centuries hasn't solved squat, so why not give diplomatic means a try?

Like I said before, can't we try and find a way to bring the sane people on both sides to the table to reach some sort of compromise and figure out a way to try and fight back against those on both sides who want the other gone from the earth? Why can't we do that? By favoring one group of people over the other instead of acknowledging the good and bad on both sides, we're really, REALLY not helping matters.

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Kucinich isn't harming anybody with his own UFO sightings. Bush seems to enjoy the idea of sending off our friends and families into harmful situations.
Exactly. Besides that, keep in mind he just said he saw a UFO. And that doesn't automatically equate to alien spaceships/life forms/what have you. It could very well have been something that normally flies around in the air but, for some reason, that night, looked odd from where he was.

But the Bush administration on the other hand, they frighten me. Big time. I'm watching a serious power trip in action when I see them, and it ain't pretty.

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Old 10-31-2007, 06:49 PM   #542
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Shirley MacLaine that Kucinich had seen a UFO at her house, Kucinich said that he had. He quickly sought to clarify -- an "unidentified flying object"
I think it is possible that any of us might see an UFO.



But, I do not believe in Aliens from other planets, or space vehicles from other planets or ghosts or angels.


but,
unidentified flying object, what is odd about that?
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fun pictures, huh?

Well, two of the above believe some invisible, imaginary guy in the sky is guiding them, for righteousness sake, to impose his will and their beliefs on other people

they are killing people based on these delusions

the other one saw an object in the sky he could not identify
he does believe he is "guided by voices" from invisible people in the sky to kill people


who is least dangerous?
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I think it is possible that any of us might see an UFO.



But, I do not believe in Aliens from other planets, or space vehicles from other planets or ghosts or angels.


but,
unidentified flying object, what is odd about that?
Smart, credible people see UFOs in NM, where Shirley MacLaine lives, all the time.
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I'm fully willing to accept there's other life forms out there in our universe. I don't think they'll be invading Earth anytime soon, but I don't see why other life forms merely existing in space is so implausible an idea.

Good point, too, deep, regarding people claiming to be guided by voices or higher beings or things of that nature. Really, how is that any different?

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But the leaders of Israel aren't leading rallies with the masses chanting:

"Death To Iran
Death To Iran
Death To Iran "

Let us know when they are and get back to us.

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Is that what the U.S. chanted before dropping nukes on Japan?? Reread your history book and get back to me
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Is that what the U.S. chanted before dropping nukes on Japan?? Reread your history book and get back to me
Was Pearl Harbor before Hiroshima?

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they didn't hit pearl harbor with nukes. come on.
NOBODY should have them. NOBODY. there is no justification.
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Is Japan now our ally?

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I'm fully willing to accept there's other life forms out there in our universe.

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Ok

other planets and star systems are made of the same materials as our system

so the possibility exists

we may very soon will find microbes and the like



but, unless we are able to conquer the dimension of time we will never see any thing close to intelligent life
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oops,

I left out the word "NOT"




the other one saw an object in the sky he could not identify
he does NOT believe he is "guided by voices" from invisible people in the sky to kill people
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Is Japan now our ally?

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that is disgusting. i can't believe you are justifying that.
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Is Japan now our ally?

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There is nothing impressive about using fear tactics to get people to come to your side. We showed Japan that we could blast them off the face of the earth. It's not too surprising that this eventually led to them becoming an ally. The real possibility of your entire country being ruthlessly murdered can tend to do that to you. We bombed 2 major cities and took the lives of thousands The dropping of nuclear bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki is terrorism, end of debate, according to this definition. http://education.yahoo.com/reference...ntry/terrorism

Also, how one can compare, Pearl Harbor, a military base that was bombed (albeit, horribly and without reason) to the dropping of nuclear weapons on cities full of innocent civilians is beyond me.
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1945 Truman used atomic bombs on two Japanese cities, Hiroshima on August 6 and Nagasaki on August 9. Now generally considered a war crime, at the minimum it was the murder of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians. There was no lack of military targets or a demonstration in a remote place was possible, so the selection of targets is indefensible, leaving aside the issue of whether the bombing was justified in the first place. To make this decision Truman had to wave aside concerns about postblast radiation, which was an unknown quantity at that time, and even the possibility of an unstoppable chain reaction in the atmosphere which would destroy the world. It was pointed out to him that one bomb dropped on a city would have an effect undistinguishable from and no greater than a big B-29 incendiary raid of the kind already in progress, in terms of immediate casualties and total damage. In other words, this was utterly senseless. And why the second bomb? Whatever point Truman thought he was making was made with the first one. Dropping the bomb to "end the war sooner" was a falsification of history because Truman, in fact, lengthened the war in order to drop the bomb. First he postponed the Potsdam Conference and thereby the Russian declaration of war on Japan for two weeks until the bomb was ready and then he had the language for assurances to the Emperor deleted so the Potsdam Declaration would be unacceptable to the Japanese. The US Strategic Bombing Survey explicitly stated that the war would have ended sooner if they had chosen different targets -- but the goal was not to end the war but to support an invasion . As to the argument that the bomb saved American lives - it is spurious to assert as fact that obliterating Hiroshima in August was needed to obviate an invasion in November - the date we had planned
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Well said, U2isthebest, I couldn't agree more.

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Ok

other planets and star systems are made of the same materials as our system

so the possibility exists

we may very soon will find microbes and the like



but, unless we are able to conquer the dimension of time we will never see any thing close to intelligent life
Oh, yeah, I agree that it's extremely unlikely we'll ever see any of this other intelligent life. I just think it does exist out there, is all . What it is, whether it's other humans or plant forms or stuff like what you mentioned, whatever, that's merely speculation and probably always will be.

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