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Old 10-07-2008, 07:27 PM   #991
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I think Sting is gearing himself up for an argument that the Obama win was completely meaningless because it was not by some all time earth shattering record breaking margin and if he really was any good it would be by some all time earth shattering record breaking margin and thus seeing as it was not by some all time earth shattering record breaking margin it should not be considered much of an achievement let alone an all time earth shattering achievement especially considering the fact that 43,256 Republicans at some point have won an election somewhere for some role or office by a larger margin than Obama’s which is interesting seeing as Little San Francisco here clearly thought Obama would or should do better than Republican Bob Redneck from Nowhere Idaho who won his race for Mayor in 1832 by a margin of 92%!!!!! What went wrong with Obama? By the way, John McCain out did Barack Obama in that same Nowhere Idaho by a margin of 3-1. Clearly not everyone felt that Obama was the best agent for change, as Little San Francisco clearly thought.


(I think you might be correct in your thinking. )
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YouTube - TPMtv: John McCain How Low Can You Go?
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In terms of the popular vote in the United States, here are the margins of victory in each election from 1824, the earliest election with complete popular vote data available, all the way up to 2004. The list is ranked based on the largest margins of victory down to the smallest in the popular vote.

1. 1920 Harding 60.32% Cox 34.15% +26.19%
2. 1924 Coolidge 54.04% Davis 28.82% +25.22%
3. 1936 Roosevelt 60.80% Landon 36.54% +24.26%
4. 1972 Nixon 60.67% McGovern 37.52% +23.15%
5. 1964 Johnson 61.05% Goldwater 38.47% +22.58%
6. 1904 Roosevelt 56.42% Parker 37.59% +18.83%
7. 1984 Reagan 58.77% Mondale 40.56% +18.21%
8. 1832 Jackson 54.74% Clay 36.93% +17.81%
9. 1932 Roosevelt 57.41% Hoover 39.65% +17.76%
10. 1928 Hoover 58.21% Smith 40.80% +17.41%
11. 1956 Eisenhower 57.37% Stevenson 41.97% +15.4%
12. 1912 Wilson 41.84% Roosevelt 27.40% +14.44%
13. 1836 Van Buren 50.79% Harrison 36.59% +14.2%
14. 1828 Jackson 55.93% Adams 43.68% +12.25%
15. 1856 Buchanan 45.29% Fremont 33.09% +12.2%
16. 1872 Grant 55.58% Greeley 43.78% +11.8%
17. 1952 Eisenhower 55.18% Stevenson 44.33% +10.85%
18. 1824 Adams 30.92% Jackson 41.36% +10.44%
19. 1860 Lincoln 39.65% Douglas 29.52% +10.13%
20. 1864 Lincoln 55.03% McClellan 44.95% +10.08%
21. 1940 Roosevelt 54.74% Willkie 44.78% +9.96%
22. 1980 Reagan 50.75% Carter 41.01% +9.74%
23. 1908 Taft 51.57% Bryan 43.04% +8.53%
24. 1996 Clinton 49.23% Dole 40.72% +8.51%
25. 1988 Bush 53.37% Dukakis 45.65% +7.72%
26. 1944 Roosevelt 53.39% Dewey 45.89% +7.5%
27. 1852 Pierce 50.83% Scott 43.88% +6.95%
28. 1900 McKinley 51.64% Bryan 45.52% +6.12%
29. 1840 Harrison 52.87% Van Buren 46.82% +6.05%
30. 1992 Clinton 43.01% Bush 37.45% +5.56%
31. 1868 Grant 52.66% Seymour 47.34% +5.32%
32. 1848 Taylor 47.28% Cass 42.49% +4.79%
33. 1948 Truman 49.55% Dewey 45.07% +4.48%
34. 1896 McKinley 51.02% Bryan 46.71% +4.31%
35. 1916 Wilson 49.24% Hughes 46.12 +3.12%
36. 1892 Cleveland 46.02% Harrison 43.01% +3.01%
37. 1876 Hayes 47.92% Tilden 50.92% +3%
38. 2004 Bush 50.73% Kerry 48.27% +2.46%
39. 1976 Carter 50.08% Ford 48.02% +2.06%
40. 1844 Polk 49.54% Clay 48.09% +1.45%
41. 1888 Harrison 47.80% Cleveland 48.63% +.83%
42. 1968 Nixon 43.42% Humphrey 42.72% +.7%
43. 1884 Cleveland 48.85% Blaine 48.28% +.57%
44. 2000 Bush 47.87% Gore 48.38% +.51%
45. 1960 Kennedy 49.72% Nixon 49.55% +.17%
46. 1880 Garfield 48.31% Hancock 48.22% +.09%
Interesting list.

Some of this would be apples and oranges though, with results from the 1800s in the mix. I think a decent point to evaluate would be since 1980. All elections since then have had roughly the same party political alignment and have been less then a 10% margin. I would personally use ~7% of the vote (admittedly, very arbitrary) as the cutoff between a successful campaign and a blowout win.
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Interesting list.

Some of this would be apples and oranges though, with results from the 1800s in the mix.
At what specific point in history did electoral victory margins matter enough?






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Frustration at falling behind Mr Obama in opinion polls has begun to boil into anger at Republican rallies with Mr McCain and Sarah Palin.

Events this week have been marked by ugly outbursts from crowds. In Clearwater, Florida, shouts of “kill him!” could be heard amid a chorus of boos when Mrs Palin attacked the Democratic nominee over his links with 1960s radical, Bill Ayers.

Journalists were reported to have been taunted with obscenities or racial insults from members of audience when Mrs Palin blamed the “mainstream media” for what she described as her “less-than-successful” - and much-parodied - television interviews.

At a rally on Monday in Albuquerque, New Mexico, Mr McCain asked: “Who is the real Barack Obama?” A man in crowd screamed back the reply: “Terrorist!”

The Republican nominee and his running mate cannot be blamed for such incidents. But their campaign is increasingly playing to the fears some voters harbour about the multi-ethnic background of Mr Obama - or paint him as a typical “Chicago politician” with ties to corrupt and dangerous individuals.


Anger consumes John McCain support as poll gap widens - Times Online
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I saw those video clips with the angry mob. Ugly. And pathetic that McCain just let those kinds of comments go by without a response. Sinking to new lows indeed.
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Oh man, Cindy Lou Who just said she thinks Obama has run the dirtiest campaign in history. Apparently she hasn't been paying much attention to her husband lately. Don't get Botox, kids, botulism kills your brain cells.
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im wondering how mitt would have fared in all this had he been nominated..
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im wondering how mitt would have fared in all this had he been nominated..
Nominated as the Republican candidate or nominated by McCain as the VP?
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almost at 1,000. New thread...

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