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Old 09-20-2008, 04:31 PM   #61
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if we adjust for White Privilage and "racial misgivings and negative views toward blacks"


the true numbers would be: Obama 60%, McCain 34%
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I am sure it was an enthusiastic crowd.
Madeleine is a hottie.






She's short! I'm short, and when I shook her hand we she was just below my eye level...and she was in heels!

She did a great job though, the crowd was really fired up, and relieved to hear such intelligent talk on foreign policy...but I got them started for her
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if we adjust for White Privilage and "racial misgivings and negative views toward blacks"


the true numbers would be: Obama 60%, McCain 34%



i wouldn't doubt that.

we might reach those numbers anyway if Obama can successfully remind everyone, especially the elderly in FL, that Mr. McCain is a big, big fan of social security privatization.
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At the insistence of the McCain campaign, the Oct. 2 debate between Gov. Sarah Palin and her Democratic rival, Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr., will have shorter question-and-answer segments than those for the presidential nominees, the advisers said. There will also be much less opportunity for free-wheeling, direct exchanges between the running mates.

McCain advisers said they had been concerned that a loose format could leave Ms. Palin, a relatively inexperienced debater, at a disadvantage and largely on the defensive.
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Sarah Palin is dim. They know it, and they don't want the rest of us knowing it.

But she's bloody dim.
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^ that she is and this says a lot of what is known all along..
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When I set up and moderate a debate
it is more free-wheeling and lively



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Newport candidates duke it out at debate

Forum leads to barbs about honesty, development and transparent government.

By JEFF OVERLEY
THE ORANGE COUNTY REGISTER


NEWPORT BEACH – This year's four-person race for City Council seemed more like a pair of duels when candidates got together for a debate this week.

That's fitting, thanks to Newport Beach's system of districting, which pits incumbent Keith Curry against retired businesswoman Dolores Otting in District 7 and Councilman Steve Rosansky against former superintendent Gloria Alkire in District 2.

In a hourlong forum at the Newport Beach Yacht Club, the four candidates filled a good portion of the time training fire on their respective adversaries.

Otting was the most aggressive, saying the council had passed "taxes disguised as fees" and formed special committees that are "marginally legal" because their members meet behind closed doors.

She targeted Curry on the issue of building a fire station at Crystal Cove to improve response times, which Curry says is neither necessary nor financially justifiable.

"Why don't you care enough to at least put a trailer up there (for firefighters)?" Otting asked.

Curry tried to stay above the fray, highlighting city accomplishments during his time on the dais. "Two years ago, I stood up here and asked for your vote," Curry told the crowd. "So it's fair tonight to say, what have you done?"

Answering his own question, Curry detailed a laundry list of projects, including the Newport Coast Community Center and Back Bay Science Center, launched and completed during his tenure.

When Otting said the council was issuing too much debt to finance public projects, and instead advocated soliciting donations from the town's "affluent people," Curry bristled, calling it an unreliable proposal and saying afterward that his opponent wanted to "shake down rich people."

Alkire, given the chance to ask her opponent a question, tried to undermine Rosansky's integrity on the issue of Sunset Ridge Park, a planned active park she said residents were falsely led to believe might be preserved as passive open space.

"Isn't it your responsibility to tell people the truth?" she asked.

Rosansky was incredulous, saying he'd seen newspaper articles as far back as 1992 that detailed plans for sports fields on the site. Indeed, a Register story from 2000 describes planned ball fields on the property.

Alkire also seemed to stumble when Rosansky questioned her call for a "change of direction." He described new parks and limits on John Wayne Airport expansion achieved during his time on the council, and asked her where she found fault.

Alkire, in an apparent attempt to suggest Rosansky doesn't deserve credit for those efforts, said that city staff "do that with or without good counsel from the council." But the comment seemed only to negate the importance of the council, regardless of its members.

Both Otting and Alkire panned a proposed legal settlement with Sober Living by the Sea, the city's largest operator of drug rehab homes, while the incumbents backed the deal.

Candidates did find common ground on Banning Ranch, agreeing that 400-acre area might ultimately be developed in a compromise proposal that makes the developer foot the bill for cleaning up the site's open space.

Mayor Ed Selich, who did not take part in the debate, is also seeking re-election but is running unopposed.
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Sarah Palin is dim. They know it, and they don't want the rest of us knowing it.

But she's bloody dim.
And this dim bulb would be literally one heartbeat away from the presidency, if elected as vice president to a 72-year-old man. Come on, people!!
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Sarah Palin is dim. They know it, and they don't want the rest of us knowing it.

But she's bloody dim.


i hope Putin's taking notes.
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i hope Putin's taking notes.
he can see her house from his backyard
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I just got back from kicking off a town hall meeting with Madeleine Albright I love talking in front of a crowd of enthusiastic Democrats


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when I shook her hand:
I hope that you washed it afterwards.

That woman has as much blood on her hands as Busch/Cheney.
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Sarah Palin is dim. They know it, and they don't want the rest of us knowing it.

But she's bloody dim.

What was Barack Obama's response to 10 town hall meetings over the summer with John McCain?
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i wouldn't doubt that.

we might reach those numbers anyway if Obama can successfully remind everyone, especially the elderly in FL, that Mr. McCain is a big, big fan of social security privatization.

Still hoping for that Tsunami.
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