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Old 09-28-2008, 02:16 PM   #631
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I cannot claim credit, I believe Irvine has used it before when people have used similar leaps of logic.
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what drives cable, and what especially drives Fox News, is the sense of hysteria around any little blip on the news scene. ratings are driven not by being right or left but by giving the viewer a reason to watch, and hysteria is the best way to do that.
But this, to me, is where Fox and CNN are truly different. I don’t care that Fox is so conservative. It’s blatant and open and obvious – and that makes it fine. I wouldn’t care if CNN moved as far left as Fox is right, either (and come on, they’re not even close to being the same thing at opposite ends). The difference to me, and what really bugs me about Fox, is that hysteria. It’s dumbed down significantly, then the hysteria always turned right up.

I was flicking between the two after the debate finished. On CNN you had a very measured and intelligent panel moderated by Anderson Cooper. On Fox, you had Sean Hannity screaming and shouting at, mostly, himself. Sure, no doubt every one of the people on the CNN panel will vote for Obama and lean their given opinions towards Obama, and sure, Sean Hannity, with a McCain-Palin sign as his backdrop (!!), will spend the hour interviewing McCain supporters about how great McCain was. If you can’t see that and adjust for that, you’re an idiot. I don’t mind that though. The difference is in the style and substance. One was a calm conversation that systematically went through every point and difference in the debate, the other was a screaming tabloid column brought to life. I would have far more respect for Fox if they ever tried to present an intelligent conservative point of view. They never, ever do.
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im wondering how the poll numbers would have looked now if john had picked mitt.


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obama not honoring the wishes of slain soldier's family:

Family Told Obama NOT To Wear Soldier Son&#039;s Bracelet... Where is Media? | NewsBusters.org

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If that's the case, then that's a shame. I wish neither candidate felt the need to go down that route. Regardless of whether or not their feelings about the soldier and the family are genuine, it always feels like a cheap stunt to me.

As an aside only of interest to me, the soldier in question here is from a town in Wisconsin not very far from my own hometown.
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If this was Palin, or for that matter McCain, is anybody in here going to tell me it wouldn't be FRONT PAGE NEWS and talked about over and over until Thursday's debate. Hence the difference in the media's treatment of the candidates. In the context of this election's "controversies" this one is pretty big - we'll see if it gets any play by anyone other than FOX.
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In the context of this election's "controversies" this one is pretty big -
How is it BIG?
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Soldier's mother 'ecstatic' about Obama's bracelet

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MILWAUKEE — The mother of a Wisconsin soldier who died in Iraq says she was "ecstatic" when Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama mentioned during Friday's debate the bracelet she gave him in honor of her son. Tracy Jopek of Merrill told The Associated Press on Sunday she was honored that Obama remembered Sgt. Ryan David Jopek, who was killed in 2006 by a roadside bomb.

Jopek criticized Internet reports suggesting Obama, D-Ill., exploited her son for political purposes. "I don't understand how people can take that and turn it into some garbage on the Internet," she said.

Jopek acknowledged e-mailing the Obama campaign in February asking that the presidential candidate not mention her son in speeches or debates. But she said Obama's mention on Friday was appropriate because he was responding after Sen. John McCain, the Republican nominee, said a soldier's mother gave him a bracelet.

"I've got a bracelet, too, from Sergeant—from the mother of Sergeant Ryan David Jopek, given to me in Green Bay," Obama said during the debate. "She asked me, 'Can you please make sure another mother is not going through what I'm going through?' No U.S. soldier ever dies in vain because they're carrying out the missions of their commander in chief. And we honor all the service that they've provided."

Jopek says Obama's comment rightfully suggested there's more than one viewpoint on the war. She wouldn't directly say whether she wanted Obama to refrain from mentioning the bracelet again, but said she hopes the issue will just go away. "I think these bracelets should be looked upon as an honor that both candidates wear them to respect the troops," Jopek said. "My request to both of them is that they honor the troops by lifting the conversation to the issues, and that they continue to live up to the standards our military deserves."
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News Headlines - Soldier's mother 'ecstatic' about Obama's bracelet : Townhall.com

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How is it BIG?
It's certainly bigger than Palin's pregnant daughter or the "Bush Doctrine" stumble. The guy's parents specifically asked that Obama not wear it and yet he continued to do so. If I were a republican strategist I would jump over this thing wearing lead boots. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if a political ad is being produced as I type. If we don't hear about this on CNN, ABC, NBC, PBS or CBS we'll know certain folks on FYM are right about a media bias.
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Wait, wait... You mean newsbusters lied again?

I thought there was a liberal media agenda?!
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It's certainly bigger than Palin's pregnant daughter or the "Bush Doctrine" stumble. The guy's parents specifically asked that Obama not wear it and yet he continued to do so.
According to his mother, they did not.

This clearly smells like a family dispute between divorced parents and little more.

But nice job to hysterically jump all over Obama the moment you could.
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"Where is Media?"

We found the media. Glad we could ease your worries.
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This clearly smells like a family dispute between divorced parents and little more.
It sure does.
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