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Old 09-26-2008, 11:37 AM   #526
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well, it seems McCain will debate tonight.

the teevee consensus is that this was just another stunt designed to take the attention away from his falling poll numbers, away from the Rick Davis scandal, and away from the slow motion Palin trainwreck.

country first, bitches.
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^yup. just saw this on CNN.
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Old 09-26-2008, 01:06 PM   #528
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John McCain has declared himself the winner of tonight's debate and his campaign has started running ads saying so. LOL!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv...Friday_WSJ.JPG
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Old 09-26-2008, 01:11 PM   #529
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John McCain has declared himself the winner of tonight's debate and his campaign has started running ads saying so. LOL!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv...Friday_WSJ.JPG
And it's this type of arrogant, rush to judgment thinking that is his downfall right now. I'm going to send him a shiny new shovel. He's going to need it for that deep hole he keeps digging.
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Now he really can skip the debate tonight. There's no need - he already won!
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Watching this now
Bono praises McCain, Obama and Americans - CNN.com

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another item that was forwarded to me
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Hope this is okay to post here... You can watch the video here
Chris Rock: It's simple, vote for the guy with one house - CNN.com

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Chris Rock: It's simple, vote for the guy with one house
(CNN) -- Republican presidential candidate John McCain is just holding on like a boxer before he gets knocked out, comedian Chris Rock says.


Comedian Chris Rock told Larry King he's proud of Barack Obama's character.

Rock, an avid supporter of Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama, spoke with CNN's Larry King on Thursday. He said Obama is more grounded with your average American -- not somebody like McCain with "12 houses."

"The other guy [McCain] can lose five houses," Rock said.

"I'll go with the guy with one house. The guy with one house is scared about losing his house."

King began the interview by asking Rock about Thursday's economic bailout talks when Obama and McCain went to the White House for discussions with the nation's top leaders.

KING: Obama and McCain at opposite ends of the table. What do you make of it?

ROCK: What do I make of it? If this was a boxing match, McCain would be holding.

KING: Holding on?

ROCK: Yes. It's like he got hit really hard in the stomach like, 'OK. I can't let him go. He's going to knock me out.' So that's what appears to be going on right now. Just a hold.

KING: Has the financial crisis affected you?

ROCK: Larry, I drove a cab over here tonight. When it's over, I'm going to try to pick up some more fares. I'm losing everything, Larry.

KING: Really downtrodden?

ROCK: Yes, it's real bad.

KING: Have HBO paid you already?

ROCK: They have paid me, but the money is worthless now. Haven't you heard? Your money's worth nothing.

KING: You must be ... proud that at this stage in our history a black man is running for president on a major ticket.

ROCK: Um, you know what? I'm proud Barack Obama's running for president. You know? If it was Flavor Flav, would I be proud? No. I don't support Barack Obama because he's black.

KING: I said just as a proud feeling. That's normal.

ROCK: There's a proud feeling because of the character of the man. You know, I was -- I supported John Kerry and, you know -- and what's my man? Al Gore.

KING: Al Gore.

ROCK: But this guy seems to be a little bit more. He seems to have watched other peoples' mistakes and, you know, seems to have a little bit more going on.

KING: From a comedic stand point, who is funnier, McCain or Obama? Seriously. Is Obama not -- it's hard to be funny about Obama?

ROCK: No, no. It's weird. People ask me that all the time. ... McCain jokes are just easy jokes, like I don't want a president with a bucket list. That's like a McCain joke. Those jokes are easy. It's like you basically, you know, you know, take the dust off your Reagan jokes and tell them again. You know?

But Obama, oh, this is a whole new set of jokes. I got to find a whole new move to the basket here. So I kind of hope he wins.

KING: Didn't you introduce Obama at a rally?

ROCK: I introduced Obama at the Apollo Theater not too long ago. I think Obama would be great. I mean, just look the big thing right now is the economy. And people are going broke. And here: The choice isn't Republican or Democrat. The choice is you got a guy that's worth $150 million with 12 houses against a guy who's worth a million dollars with one house.

KING: Well --

ROCK: The guy with one house really cares about losing a house, because he is homeless. The other guy can lose five houses and still got a bunch of houses. Does this make any sense? Am I the only one that sees this?

KING: It's unique way of ...

ROCK: I'm just saying, John McCain could lose half his houses.

KING: You got a point.

ROCK: And sleep well.

KING: You and Bill Clinton were on Letterman on Tuesday. You had some problems with the tone of his endorsement of Barack Obama. ... Do you think Bill is hesitant about Barack Obama?

ROCK: You know what? You know, he did a great speech in Denver. And Hillary's been on the campaign trail. Just at that moment, if you watched what happened on David Letterman, it appeared he was holding back. And when you tell a joke and everybody laughs, it is not because they disagree with what you're saying. So --

KING: They get it?

ROCK: Yes, they get it. The whole audience was in on it. But, you know, hey, the guy's in a weird position there. His wife ran for the thing and she didn't win.

KING: The next night, on "The Daily Show," Jon Stewart asked Clinton about the Letterman appearance and Clinton suggested that Obama supporters who questioned commitment are missing the point.

ROCK: It was great. It was great. And you're right, [Obama] does need to get some of the votes that went to Hillary and all that. I don't understand any Democrat that voted for Hillary that doesn't support Obama. Because their views are pretty similar. You know what I mean? ...

I understand people supporting Mr. McCain. But a Democrat that's going to just be mad is -- there's something kind of really messed up about that.

KING: Have you always done political humor?

ROCK: You know --

KING: When you started, did you do politics?

ROCK: I'm interested in the world. Jon Stewart does political humor. Bill Maher does political humor. I talk about stuff the way guys would talk about it at the barber shop. I don't belong on any panel on this show. You know what I mean? I don't deserve to be near Roland Martin and Anderson Cooper and all these guys. I try to talk about politics in a way a guy that works at UPS would understand.

KING: You did a lot of Brooklyn stuff.

ROCK: I do all sorts of stuff, Larry. All sorts of stuff. You know, I hope Obama wins just because, you know, the country needs it. The country needs a change. We kind of seen what this whole McCain thing is. And I'll go with the guy with one house. The guy with one house is scared about losing his house.


KING: I never thought of it that way.

ROCK: It is that simple.
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John McCain has declared himself the winner of tonight's debate and his campaign has started running ads saying so. LOL!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv...Friday_WSJ.JPG
Is that legit?
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Is that legit?
Yes.

The McCain people are apparently blaming the Wall Street Journal for mistakenly posting it early?
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Old 09-26-2008, 04:38 PM   #535
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I've got a question, and forgive my stupidity for not knowing the answer. Who exactly is working on this bailout bill? Senators & Congressmen? Are there any economists? Other financial "experts" or persons of knowledge?
This might be different, but normally a bill gets drafted in either one of the House Senate subcommittees. Then it goes further to the standing committee, gets discussed further, and handed to the House/Senate floor. The next stage is that the other part of Congress gets the bill to review it. So here it would then go from the Senate to the House. They take their look on it, discuss it, make changes or proposals and then negotiations with the Senate begin at the conference committee. After a compromise is reached the bill again gets handed to the floors who finally decide on that bill and then hand it to the President. He signs it into law or vetoes it (hopefully Bush hasn't developed some kind of veto reflex, as that would make things complicated).

If this also directly applies to the bailout plan, or if that is another process, I don't know.
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Old 09-26-2008, 04:42 PM   #536
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Does anyone know what time the presidential debate's airing, eastern, pacific, or any time? I want to find out so I can watch it live here in the UK but I can't find out anywhere what time it's on.

I think it'll make for pretty important viewing, could it possibly make or break McCain's campaign? I doubt very much the former.
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I believe it's 9 pm eastern time so it should be 2 am for you.
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I believe it's 9 pm eastern time so it should be 2 am for you.
Great, thanks I doubt I'll be the only one staying up to watch it..?
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John McCain has declared himself the winner of tonight's debate
Was it a knockout, TKO or did they have to go to the scorecards?
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Yes.

The McCain people are apparently blaming the Wall Street Journal for mistakenly posting it early?
But this is the Internet. Remember that photo from Fox News that had a headline on the bottom ticker that read: "Osama Bin Laden—Obama/Biden: Coincidence?"

That turned out to be a forgery and others here thought it was real.
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