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Old 09-25-2008, 10:21 AM   #376
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I don't think McCain is scared to debate.
I don't think he's scared to debate, I think he's scared to debate about the economy and that's what the election is about right now. How is he going to use his POW status with the economy?
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Old 09-25-2008, 10:24 AM   #377
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I don't think he's scared to debate, I think he's scared to debate about the economy and that's what the election is about right now. How is he going to use his POW status with the economy?
"I was a POW for 5 years, so I didn't even know what was happening to the U.S. economy for all that time, and 35 years later I've seen no reason to try and brush up on it at all." Something like that?
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This has been one of the saddest times in America's history (political).

McCain is not running on issues, he's running on tactics, and we'll see if it works (probably).

He has a VP who is probably the worst selection I can ever think of, just horrible, complete political move, and again, it worked.

Now he wants to put off the debates, only because Palin isn't ready, and McCain doesn't want to have to talk about the economy, something his party is responsible for, and something he knows Obama will be able to hammer him on.

This latest political move makes me sick, although I can respect it when it comes to a political tatic, I just hate we can't talk about issues. Instead it's getting elected.

McCain has sold his freaking soul to be POTUS. This country gets what it deserves if he's elected.
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Part of me thinks this is all a red herring cooked up to get rid of the VP debate.

Sarah Palin isn't ready. They know it.

She's been cramming for 2 weeks and the interview with Katie Couric is her best shot? Come on, they can add 2 and 2 together.



i agree with this, and i also wonder if this stunt isn't to distract from her awful interview with Couric.

the more i think about it, the more awful it really was.
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Somebody that has a much better vantage point than any of us has given his opinion


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Bill Clinton: Don't 'Overly Parse' McCain Request to Delay Debate


September 25, 2008 8:26 AM

ABC News' Nitya Venkataraman Reports: Former President Bill Clinton defended Sen. John McCain's request to delay the first presidential debate, saying McCain did it in "good faith" and pushed organizers to reserve time for economy talk during the debate if the Friday plans move forward.

Appearing on Good Morning America Thursday, Clinton told ABC News' Chris Cuomo that McCain's push to postpone the debate would only be a good political move if both candidates agreed. McCain announced on Wednesday that he would "suspend" his presidential campaign to come to Washington to help negotiate a financial bailout bill

"We know he didn't do it because he's afraid because Sen. McCain wanted more debates," Clinton said, adding that he was "encouraged" by the joint statement from McCain and Sen. Barack Obama.

"You can put it off a few days the problem is it's hard to reschedule those things," Clinton said, "I presume he did that in good faith since I know he wanted -- I remember he asked for more debates to go all around the country and so I don't think we ought to overly parse that."

If the debate moves forward as planned for Friday night, Clinton says "they should be able to talk about this some of the debate because it is a security issue."

The former president thought Bush's address Wednesday night on the economic crisis had a "positive reaction".

"I thought it was the clearest statement of why we're in the fix we're in, at least what the nature of it is and why some national action is needed," Clinton said.

He said that both Democrats and Republicans "should move as quickly as they can" on the president's economic rescue plan but that both parties "want to know exactly how this $700 billion is going to be invested..to stabilize the system."

President Bush's bipartisan meeting on the economic crisis will take place at 4pm at the White House, both Obama and McCain will be in attendance.



So this should end the debate.


I can post numerous Obama's quotes where he values Clinton's advice and experience.


Are Obama supporter's so desperate that a delay of a few days will be grasped at for what ever advantage they think they can get?
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So this should end the debate.

i guess it does. it's not so much that McCain doesn't want to debate Obama, it's that he doesn't want to debate national security right now, and he's *desperate* to find a way to cancel the VP debate, and he's trying to distract from the narrative that his campaign is collapsing at the same time as Sarah Palin has been unmasked as thoroughly unprepared by Katie Couric.

so, you're right, it's not that John McCain is scared to debate.

it's that he's scared of everything else.

it remains a thoroughly political stunt. just like Ms. Palin.
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So this should end the debate.


I can post numerous Obama's quotes where he values Clinton's advice and experience.


Are Obama supporter's so desperate that a delay of a few days will be grasped at for what ever advantage they think they can get?
Bill has spoken!!! So it must be true! This is the same kind of appeal to authority using Bono that people have relied on here much to my amusement.

Will Sarah Palin be debating? Is she in the bunker with Cheney?
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i agree with this, and i also wonder if this stunt isn't to distract from her awful interview with Couric.

the more i think about it, the more awful it really was.
That aired already? I thought it was tonight.
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That aired already? I thought it was tonight.

clips have leaked.

YouTube - CBS Sarah Palin interview
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Bill has spoken!!!


so has Chris Rock. about Bill Clinton. and far, far more honestly.

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Thanks . This should be delightfully uncomfortable and full of gaffes that can easily be spotted and refuted by anyone with a functioning brain and/or Internet access, so
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and i do recommend the Chris Rock clip. especially the end.
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so has Chris Rock. about Bill Clinton. and far, far more honestly.

YouTube - Chris Rock on Bill, Alaska and Moose
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I recall part of the interview with Olbermann last night, where they said something to the effect of there being 3 or 4 debates in a span of 19 days. If the one tomorrow doesn't take place, logistically it could be quite difficult to reschedule, thus leaving one less debate, and perhaps the McCain camp is hoping for a non-VP one (ie, it to be cancelled).


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How Racism Works...

What if John McCain were a former president of the Harvard Law Review?
What if Barack Obama finished fifth from the bottom of his graduating class?

What if McCain were still married to the first woman he said "I do" to?
What if Obama were the candidate who left his first wife after she no longer measured up to his standards?

What if Michelle Obama were a wife who not only became addicted to pain killers, but acquired them illegally through her charitable organization?
What if Cindy McCain graduated from Harvard?

What if Obama were a member of the Keating-5?
What if McCain were a charismatic, eloquent speaker?

If these questions reflected reality, do you really believe the election numbers would be as close as they are? This is what racism does. It covers up, rationalizes and minimizes positive qualities in one candidate and emphasizes negative qualities in another when there is a color difference.

You are The Boss... which team would you hire?

With America facing historic debt, 2 wars, stumbling health care, a weakened dollar, all-time high prison population, mortgage crises, bank foreclosures, etc.

Educational Background:

Obama:
Columbia University - B.A. Political Science with a Specialization in International Relations.
Harvard - Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude

Biden:
University of Delaware - B.A. in History and B.A. in Political Science.
Syracuse University College of Law - Juris Doctor (J.D.)

vs.

McCain:
United States Naval Academy - Class rank: 894 of 899

Palin:
Hawaii Pacific University - 1 semester
North Idaho College - 2 semesters - general study
University of Idaho - 2 semesters - journalism
Matanuska-Susitna College - 1 semester
University of Idaho - 3 semesters - B.A. in Journalism

Now, which team are you going to hire ?

PS: What if Barack Obama had an unwed, pregnant teenage daughter....
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