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Old 04-23-2008, 10:45 PM   #706
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Wrestling, what about baseball?

Not one of these candidates is going to be able to take the mound on opening day 2009 and throw a baseball 60 ft to home plate. Embarrassing!!
McCain gets a pass because of his war injuries but c'mon, Hillary is a girl and Barack throws like one.

Say what you will about GWB but at least he could deliver the ball to the catcher with a little "mustard" on it. Which is important. We need a president that can "bring the heat" and isn't afraid to "brush back" the Chevezes, Putins, Osamas and Ahmadinejads of the world.

John McCain doesn't need Condoleezza Rice as his running mate. No, no. He needs Nolan Ryan.
I was actually thinking about that the other day, about a President McCain throwing out the first pitch, and how he wouldn't be able to do it. Kinda sad, but kinda cool, too.
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INEZ, Ky. (AP) - Republican John McCain on Wednesday asked the North Carolina GOP not to run a television ad that brings up the controversial former pastor of Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama.

North Carolina Republican party officials insisted the ad will run as planned despite McCain's request.

The ad opens with a photo of Obama and the Rev. Jeremiah Wright together and a clip of Wright, whose incendiary comments about race have bedeviled Obama.

"He's just too extreme for North Carolina," the narrator says in the 30-second spot.

"We asked them not to run it," McCain told reporters traveling with him in Kentucky. "I'm sending them an e-mail as we speak asking them to take it down.

"I don't know why they do it. Obviously, I don't control them, but I'm making it very clear, as I have a couple of times in the past, that there's no place for that kind of campaigning, and the American people don't want it," McCain said.

McCain said the ad was described to him: "I didn't see it, and I hope that I don't see it."

Republican National Committee Chairman Mike Duncan, who accompanied McCain, said he had left a voice mail message for state party chairwoman Linda Daves asking her to pull the ad.

McCain, in an e-mail to Daves, said he will draw sharp contrasts with Democrats. "But we need not engage in political tactics that only seek to divide the American people."
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I have seen you spin DADT this way before. It is amazing how uninformed you are about these things. As someone that was there you get this all wrong and completely misrepresent it.


do enlighten me, deep.
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Wrestling, what about baseball?

Not one of these candidates is going to be able to take the mound on opening day 2009 and throw a baseball 60 ft to home plate. Embarrassing!!
McCain gets a pass because of his war injuries but c'mon, Hillary is a girl and Barack throws like one.

Say what you will about GWB but at least he could deliver the ball to the catcher with a little "mustard" on it. Which is important. We need a president that can "bring the heat" and isn't afraid to "brush back" the Chevezes, Putins, Osamas and Ahmadinejads of the world.

John McCain doesn't need Condoleezza Rice as his running mate. No, no. He needs Nolan Ryan.


. . .the only appropriate reaction to such qualifications being considered in electing a president.
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Old 04-24-2008, 03:53 PM   #710
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They were talking a little about this last night on one of the news channels. I think they said that if Obama and Hillary split the remaining primary delegates 50-50, and if the remaining undecided superdelegates went 50-50, Obama would be over 2025.
That's what those of us supporting Obama want. I'm pissed off that Hillary won Pennsylvania dammit!
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Obama chose not to have his name on the ballot in Michigan

He didn't choose not to have his name on the ballot in Michigan dammit!
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Again, I believe Obama will be the nominee

I also believe the GOP do not want to run against the Clintons at all. They lost twice to them and could not beat them down in the polls even with Bill's dirty deeds.

You may recall Gingrich and Limbaugh were saying Hillary would be the next president last fall, they had already conceded to her.

Everyone says Rove is/was a genius, he barely won each time.

The Clintons figured out how to win and governed with 60+% approvals.

And now they are out spent 2-3 to 1 and written off and they still win most all of the battle ground states. All the while having to cede 90% of a block of their base to Obama.

The Clintons have received 90% of the Black and Gay vote in previous elections for one reason only. Because in those elections the Clintons were the candidates that would and did best represent those groups in a fair and decent way, especailly compared to the GOP alternative.

I don't fault the 90% of Black voters that choose Obama over Hillary. A vote for a qualified Black role model is tempting, but for me it is not the main factor.

I just don't think it is fair to label the Clintons as Klansmen or even in the likes of politicians that have not supported voting rights, civil rights laws, affirmative action, equal rights, etc. They have a legitimate legacy and record.
True. It's not fair to label the Clintons as Klansmen or anything like that.
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He didn't choose not to have his name on the ballot in Michigan dammit!
are you sure?

some candidates had their name on the Mich ballot

and some did not.




It may have been the same way in Florida, too.
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Hillary wants Obama to sit at the back of the bus "for the good of the Party"

So much for the process.

And Bill's accussing folk of playing the "race card" against him. Why is it always about


them?

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Do you think a superdelegate should represent the will of his state, the national popular Democratic vote or his own independent judgment as to what would be best for the country?
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Do you think a superdelegate
a super delegate ?

no such animal

what a bizarre and f**ed up system


and this is in a party that calls itself

democratic


Howard Dean - what an incompetent idiot
creating and presiding over this total and complete cluster feck

at the end of the voting (primaries) a nominee should not be undetermined
and the decision is left to a bunch of political hacks


there will be 100% legitimate reasons for supporters of either Obama and Clinton to be unhappy
with the outcome
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When did I create the thread about this problem? February?

Haha!!!!! And I was made fun of. I was told that this would not be an issue.

Tick tick tick........


Draft Gore.

Draft Edwards....

Declare this mess a draw and start over.
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I'm not in disagreement with you on whether there should be superdelegates. But being there are.....
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I don't believe there is a solution.


everybody is fucked

the whole country and the Democratic party in particular

This race, the convoluted ways that individual states have set up primaries and awarding of delegates is total bullshit


what if we had 10% of the electoral votes in 2000 made by appointed superelectors?

yes, this is a close election, if we had a basketball game go into overtime and the score was 131-130

one side would win

this is like they don't play the last two minutes on the clock, but instead
five superreferees meet behind close doors
and award the last 21 points and determined a winner!!

why are a large portion of the delegates needed to be nominated separate and apart from what people actually vote for?

This is something you might expect from Vladimir Putin or perhaps some other corrupt ruling power
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Declare this mess a draw and start over.
a good place to start

might be with voting in Florida and Michigan (don't count the early voting)

or is that just too fair?
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