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Old 04-23-2008, 04:54 PM   #691
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If you believe America has 50 states
Hillary has the popular vote lead.


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Popular Vote (w/FL & MI)** 14,993,348 47.4% 15,116,076 47.8% Clinton +122,728 +0.4%

Estimate w/IA, NV, ME, WA* 15,327,432 47.5% 15,339,938 47.5% Clinton +12,506 +0.04%




*(Iowa, Nevada, Washington & Maine Have Not Released Popular Vote Totals. RealClearPolitics has estimated the popular vote totals for Senator Obama and Clinton in these four states. RCP uses the WA Caucus results from February 9 in this estimate because the Caucuses on February 9 were the “official” contest recognized by the DNC to determine delegates to the Democratic convention. The estimate from these four Caucus states where there are not official popular vote numbers increases Senator Obama’s popular vote margin by 110,224. This number would be about 50,000 less if the Washington primary results from February 19th were used instead of the Washington Caucus results.)

**(Senator Obama was not on the Michigan Ballot and thus received zero votes. Uncommitted was on the ballot and received 238,168 votes as compared to 328,309 for Senator Clinton.)
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Seeing that Obama was not on the ballot in Michigan, I would hope she could gain a majority with that state included.
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Old 04-23-2008, 05:26 PM   #693
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Obama chose not to have his name on the ballot in Michigan

Hillary chose not to campaign in Illinois and Idaho

so perhaps we should not count Illinois and Idaho for Obama?
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She was still an option on the ballot in those states, that comparison doesn't work
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Not an accurate comparison.
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Old 04-23-2008, 05:41 PM   #696
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She was still an option on the ballot in those states, that comparison doesn't work
Obama was the same exact option in Florida as Hillary.


as for Michigan he chose to not have his name on the ballot, his free choice

Hillary chose to not compete in Illinois, her free choice


but, back to Florida and Michigan, Obama and his people chose a second time not to support any re-vote in those states,

even when a new vote would have most likely improved the votes for him because his numbers were up from earlier when the first votes occurred.
(they just knew he would not win and therefore they would rather disenfranchise two states)

So again Obama wants to ascend to the nomination with only 48 states,
Is change taking us back to the 50s?
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So again Obama wants to ascend to the nomination with only 48 states,
Yes, well that's about 45 or so states more than Hillary is interested in ascending.
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Which states have the Hillary Clinton campaign advocated not including?
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She just thinks that all the states that have caucuses, lots of black people, latte-sipping activists, and so on are irrelevant.

I'd sure love to vote for her living in one of those states in the fall.
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Old 04-23-2008, 08:17 PM   #700
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Excellent: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...selections2008
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the WWE clips were just... honestly... i don't even have the words. can you have a dukakis on the tank moment if all three candidates do it?
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Obama chose not to have his name on the ballot in Michigan

Hillary chose not to campaign in Illinois and Idaho

so perhaps we should not count Illinois and Idaho for Obama?
How do you even type that with a straight face? It's honestly crossed over from absurd to embarrassing.

Who are all those uncommitted votes in MI going to? So she gets to keep the votes she got but those disappear in thin air.

And leave it to the Clintons to singlehandedly elect a different method of attaining the primary nomination. WHAT FUCKING DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE??? Is Al Gore president??

I'm actually embarrassed on their behalf every time I see them on TV. That's so sad. I used to like them both.
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How do you even type that with a straight face?
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Is Al Gore president??
In a parallel sane universe, where every vote is counted, yes.
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the WWE clips were just... honestly... i don't even have the words. can you have a dukakis on the tank moment if all three candidates do it?
are you ready to rumble?
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Wrestling, what about baseball?

Not one of these candidates is going to be able to take the mound on opening day 2009 and throw a baseball 60 ft to home plate. Embarrassing!!
McCain gets a pass because of his war injuries but c'mon, Hillary is a girl and Barack throws like one.

Say what you will about GWB but at least he could deliver the ball to the catcher with a little "mustard" on it. Which is important. We need a president that can "bring the heat" and isn't afraid to "brush back" the Chevezes, Putins, Osamas and Ahmadinejads of the world.

John McCain doesn't need Condoleezza Rice as his running mate. No, no. He needs Nolan Ryan.
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