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Old 03-26-2008, 06:04 PM   #256
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ok fine.

im exhausted.

i hereby declare that from this point on

i'm not commenting on hill for the next *72 hrs.

unless she does something really stoopid.

ok, fine.

see u kids on Sunday.

g'bye

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Old 03-26-2008, 06:26 PM   #258
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A new poll from the NBC and the Wall Street Journal finds that voters have problems voting for a candidate of McCain's age, apparently far more than object to supporting either an African American or female candidate. MSNBC's Norah O'Donnell previewed the poll earlier today (the full results will be announced later tonight):

O'DONNELL: Here's what the voters think according to a brand new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll released just this afternoon. 71% say Americans are ready to elect a woman as president, 20% say no. The results are nearly identical when voters were asked whether Americans were ready to elect an African-American as president. 72% said yes and 18% said no. We will have more on this NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll tonight.


We also asked about in that number about McCain's age and how many people want to elect someone his age. Less people want to elect someone McCain's age than want to elect an African-American or a woman. We're going to have more of those poll results. NBC Washington bureau chief Tim Russert will have more of those details on NBC Nightly News with Brian Williams and of course on Hardball tonight.
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If this poll were conducted 4 years ago, and Hillary and Barack were not in the picture, I wonder if those African American v. Female numbers would be any different.
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Well I guess now we have ageism too. I wonder what the specific concerns about his age are. Health issues? Mental faculties? If it was his 90 whatever year old mother running, that I could understand.
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There's also reverse ageism, I can see some people saying Obama is too young.
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Old 03-26-2008, 08:03 PM   #262
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I have never heard that

or have I ever seen it in any news story.

Obama will be 47 at election time.

Bill Clinton was 46

and JKK was 43


Obama does lack experience and that is a legitimate reason not to vote for him.

I do think he would be a better president than Rudy.

I guess Rudy was too young, too.





* Ulysses S. Grant was born April 27, 1822 and was 46 years old when he was elected.

Theodore Roosevelt was born Oct. 27, 1858 and was 42 years old when he was elected. The youngest U.S. President
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If this poll were conducted 4 years ago, and Hillary and Barack were not in the picture, I wonder if those African American v. Female numbers would be any different.
From Gallup's archives--results on those questions from 1958 (African-American) and 1937 (female) through to 2003:



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Thanks for that Yolland

They appear to be fairly even...so I wonder if the specific figures of Obama and Clinton in people's minds influenced the outcome of this recent poll.
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Here's the full answer on that poll question from the new poll MrsS mentioned. Looks like it has some historical data too.



Clearly, in this polling series, the answers have been consistently less optimistic than Gallup's. I think that may have as much to do with the way they asked the question ("Are voters ready to elect...?" vs. "Would you vote for...?") as it does with whether or not respondents had specific known candidates in mind.
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I think you're right. The way it's asked definitely would lead to different results.
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Time is wondering if Al Gore couldn't step in and just take over, probably choose Obama as his VP, which is apparently what everyone actually wanted in the first place.

sounds great to me.

i also like the idea of Obama/Bloomberg.
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i also like the idea of Obama/Bloomberg.
Me too...I got really excited when I saw Bloomberg introducing Obama this morning
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i really do think Hillary's finished. her approval ratings are in the gutter. her only hope right now is to try to unseat McCain in 2012, and the way that she does that is by destroying Obama.
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I do love how she's willing to tear down one of the brightest stars in politics in the last 40 years to risk 4 more years of Bush for her own gain
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