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Old 01-08-2008, 09:47 PM   #616
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He's too much of a war hawk IMO.

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When the news spread that a pair of young, vaguely-unkempt hecklers shouted "Iron my shirt!" at a Hillary Clinton event last night, the conspiracy theories spread quickly across the Internet. Apparently, some Clinton foes didn't believe she could have come up with her spontaneous quip: "Oh, the remnants of sexism are alive and well!"

But a few intrepid bloggers, cross-referencing video footage and MySpace pages, came up with a new explanation: Boston-based shock radio. Apparently, Nick Gemelli and Adolfo Gonzalez Jr., who were escorted from the Clinton event in Salem, have jobs on WBCN-FM’s "Toucher and Rich Show," which airs from 3 to 7 p.m. (Gemelli, a call-screener, is known on the air as "Intern Nick.")

No official confirmation from WBCN: in an e-mail, the station’s marketing director, Cha Chi Loprete, said he has no comment. But the evidence trail seems solid – and based on the footage, the hecklers seemed pretty pleased with themselves.



I didn't think there could be actual serious men in NH who are that ignorant, then again you never know.
THis sounds like a BCN stunt.
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I'm wondering if some of you even saw the same clip that I did of Hillary Clinton becoming "emotional." I read about the incident before I saw it for myself, and I was expecting full-on waterworks. I'm not even sure her eyes were damp. As far as I can tell, her voice just wavered a bit. Sheesh. I'm not a big Hillary fan, but this kind of crap makes me feel incredibly sympathetic toward her despite myself.

The Daily Show had a great bit just now about this latest tempest in a teapot. Jon Stewart said if that's an emotional breakdown he hopes no one ever sees him getting a flu shot. And then he had a great montage of male politicos openly weeping.
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Am I reading this wrong? CNN's saying although Clinton came in first, Obama picked up 12 delegates to Clinton's 11.
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Can you provide a link? What I'm looking at shows them each having picked up 9 pledged delegates. NH only has 22 pledged Dem delegates, so I don't see how they could have 23 between the two of them, plus Edwards cleared the 15% threshold.
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No wait, what you saw must be with the superdelegates added in. NH has 5 Dem superdelegates, so I guess 1 more of them must be backing Obama than Clinton as of now.
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I see that, too, but go down to the bottom of this page where it has the various profiles of each state. Under New Hampshire he has 12, she has 11.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/pri...s/scorecard/#D

Maybe something wasn't updated/done correctly, or I'm looking at something wrong. (Probably my bad.)
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No wait, what you saw must be with the superdelegates added in. NH has 5 Dem superdelegates, so I guess 1 more of them must be backing Obama than Clinton as of now.
I just saw that myself.

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I was surprised to see Obama voted for the Terri Schiavo law. He called that vote one of his worst mistakes. OK, he was a new Senator and all, but that was only a few years back.

It's not a deal breaker for me, but it's a consideration. Off to look at voting record again.
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Where did Edwards come in?
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Someone on one of my lists said that Obama is Catholic. That can't be true.
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I'm wondering if some of you even saw the same clip that I did of Hillary Clinton becoming "emotional." I read about the incident before I saw it for myself, and I was expecting full-on waterworks. I'm not even sure her eyes were damp. As far as I can tell, her voice just wavered a bit. Sheesh. I'm not a big Hillary fan, but this kind of crap makes me feel incredibly sympathetic toward her despite myself.
It's the double standard, and some people just see what they want to see. Women in NH and everywhere are intelligent free thinking beings, crying did not decide the NH primary for women voters. Maybe some of us voted for Barack too because we like the way he looks in a swimsuit, and cause Oprah likes him. Yeah, that's it.
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I'm wondering if some of you even saw the same clip that I did of Hillary Clinton becoming "emotional." I read about the incident before I saw it for myself, and I was expecting full-on waterworks. I'm not even sure her eyes were damp. As far as I can tell, her voice just wavered a bit. Sheesh. I'm not a big Hillary fan, but this kind of crap makes me feel incredibly sympathetic toward her despite myself.

The Daily Show had a great bit just now about this latest tempest in a teapot. Jon Stewart said if that's an emotional breakdown he hopes no one ever sees him getting a flu shot. And then he had a great montage of male politicos openly weeping.
Everything you said =

I think we were the same person yesterday because I was just about to come here and post the exact same thing, down to the Daily Show montage!
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What bothered me about her "human, emotional" moment was that in the same breath she attacked Obama, but that didn't get nearly as much play as her being "real".

I still say she unites the GOP, divides independents and her own party (the evidence can be seen on this forum). That is a recipe for disaster in the general.
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Obama got the Culinary Workers Union endorsement in Nevada. I hope that helps him but at this point I won't hold my breath.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5h...roetQD8U2H8A82
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