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Old 12-29-2007, 10:06 PM   #346
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The last great convention was JFK in 60.
That's what I was thinking about.

It'd sure make great TV.
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Old 12-29-2007, 10:10 PM   #347
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You could have seen it last year if you followed Canadian politics.

Well I'm sorry our news networks didn't carry what I'm sure was a nailbiting Canadian political convention!
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Well I'm sorry our news networks didn't carry what I'm sure was a nailbiting Canadian political convention!
Funny thing is, I actually had to watch it online myself!
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You know what I would LOVE to see?

A convention, for either party, where it really does come down to who has the most delegates, jockeying, campaigning (at the convention), like the olden days of politics. That would be fun, but I doubt that'd happen in this age of endless campaigns.
Me too!
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Obama's too nice to be President? That's a new one

NY Times
December 30, 2007
Candidates Step Up Attacks in Iowa
By JULIE BOSMAN and DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK

BOONE, Iowa — The presidential candidates spent the last Sunday before the Iowa caucuses attending church services and staging big rallies to make last-minutes appeals as new polls suggested tightening races in both the Democratic and Republican fields.

With three Democrats scrambling for the lead in Iowa, which holds its caucuses on Thursday, the candidates tried to paint their opponents as flawed for the challenges facing the nation.

Former Senator John Edwards, continuing a line of attack, suggested that Senator Barack Obama is too “nice” for the presidency.

“You can’t nice these people to death,” he said, referring to insurance companies and drug companies. “You’d better send somebody into that arena who’s ready.”

Senator Obama spoke for nearly two hours at a high school in Knoxville, where he took on — if not quite by name — Bill Clinton, who previously suggested that electing Mr. Obama was a risky role of the dice.

“Let me tell you something,” Mr. Obama countered on Sunday, “the real gamble is having the same old folks doing the same old things against and expecting a different result. That is not an approach we can afford.”

Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, who spent the day campaigning in four towns across southeastern Iowa, attended services with her daughter, Chelsea, at Corinthian Baptist Church, and then flew to Vinton for her first campaign appearance. (Her husband was en route through the fog to a campaign appearance in Sergeant Bluff.)

A McClatchy/MSNBC poll found Mr. Obama, Mr. Edwards and Mrs. Clinton essentially in a three-way dead heat among likely caucus-goers. The poll found a similar dynamic in the Republican field, with former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee tied with former Massacusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and others lagging behind.

The spotlight in the Republican field continued to be on Mr. Huckabee, who nevertheless had a quiet Sunday beyond his morning appearance at a church service.

On Saturday, Mr. Huckabee unveiled a pugnacious stump speech, tearing into the credibility of Mr. Romney, the Bush administration’s handling of the war and “East Coast establishment Republicans” in general.

On Sunday, Mr. Huckabee continued his barrage of attacks on the credibility of Mr. Romney as they head into the Iowa Republican caucus. Defending his characterization of the Bush administration’s “arrogant bunker mentality” toward the Iraq war, Mr. Huckabee accused Mr. Romney of hypocrisy for demanding an apology to the administration.

“He himself had talked about the major mistakes that had been made by the administration,” Mr. Huckabee said in an interview on NBC’s “Meet the Press.” “He demanded of me an apology, but he didn’t demand of himself an apology for also being critical, as have most Republicans.”

Mr. Huckabee then attended an early service of the Cornerstone Family Church in Des Moines. When parishioners later found unsigned fliers on their car windshields criticizing Mr. Huckabee for failing to veto legislation authorizing video poker machines in Arkansas and for accepting a speaking fee from a company involved in stem-cell research. It is impossible to know how widely these fliers were distributed, but other large evangelical churches in the area reported their appearance as well.

Mr. Romney campaigned in eastern Iowa and seemed noticeably more confident on Sunday, choosing to take questions from reporters in Columbus Junction after declining to do Saturday.

“Two or three weeks ago, the polls said he was ahead by over 20 points,” Mr. Romney said of Mr. Huckabee. “Now the polls are saying we’re virtually tied. It looks to me like we are doing pretty well.”

Rudolph W. Giuliani wrapped up his final campaign swing here in Mount Pleasant on Saturday night and left, with no plans to return to the state before the caucuses.

His campaign began re-branding Mr. Giuliani as the candidate of religious conservatives, or values voters, handing out glossy pamphlets featuring the endorsement from the Rev. Pat Robertson and a quotation from Mr. Giuliani in large letters: “My belief in God and reliance on His guidance is at the core of who I am.”
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Now this could make things very INTERESTING:




Bloomberg Prepares to Run

Monday, December 31, 2007 12:39 PM

By: Newsmax Staff Article Font Size



New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg is seriously moving toward a decision to run for president as an independent in 2008 — and his aides are already laying the groundwork for a Bloomberg campaign.


Next weekend Bloomberg will join Democratic and Republican statesmen at the University of Oklahoma in an effort to push major party candidates into renouncing partisan gridlock.


Former Sen. David Boren of Oklahoma, one of the organizers of the gathering, told the New York Times that if major party candidates did not formally embrace bipartisanship within two months, “I would be among those who would urge Mr. Bloomberg to very seriously consider running for president as an independent.”


Another scheduled attendee at the Oklahoma meeting, Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska, has said he would consider being Bloomberg’s running mate on an independent ticket.


As Newsmax has reported, several Bloomberg advisers have been quietly feeling out potential campaign consultants regarding their availability should the mayor decide to run.


Patrick Brennan, political director of Bloomberg’s 2005 re-election campaign, has resigned his position as commissioner of the city’s Community Assistance Unit to spend more time exploring Bloomberg’s possible national campaign, according to the Times.


Bloomberg has consistently insisted that he has no plans to run for the White House. But in private talks with friends and associates, he has suggested he would give serious thought to a run if the opposing major party candidates are poles apart — for example, if Mike Huckabee is the GOP candidate and is opposed by Barack Obama or John Edwards.


In that case, Bloomberg might decide “those candidates are vulnerable to a challenge from a pragmatic, progressive centrist, which is how he would promote himself,” the Times observes.


The process for launching an independent campaign formally begins on March 5, when third-party candidates can begin circulating nominating petitions in Texas. Both major parties may have settled on their candidates by then. The deadline for filing the petitions is May 12.


Aides have said that Bloomberg, a multi-billionaire, could invest as much as $1 billion of his own money in a White House campaign, which would mean he would “not have to spend a lot of time raising money and he would not have to make deals with special interest groups to raise money,” Boren said.


Political insiders say two things are certain regarding Bloomberg and the presidency — he will not resign his post as mayor to run, and he will not enter the campaign unless he believes he can win.


“Normally I don’t think an independent candidacy would have a chance,” said Boren, who is now president of the University of Oklahoma.


“I don’t think these are normal times.”


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Bloomberg could put Romney in the Whitehouse.
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You think he'd spoil for the Democrats?
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Bloomberg could put Romney in the Whitehouse.
You think so? I figured he would harm the GOP.
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I'm all for splitting the conservative vote.
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He's cute, that would work for me

INDIANOLA, Iowa (CNN) — He may be able to leap tall buildings in a single bound, but Superman can’t caucus.

Actor and Iowa native Brandon Routh is better-known for his role as Superman, but Sunday night he made a cameo appearance on the campaign trail, speaking on behalf of Illinois Sen. Barack Obama at a rally in Indianola, Iowa.

Routh says he is "sad" that he can't caucus any more because he no longer lives in the Hawkeye State, but he says he's "excited" by Obama's ability to unite the country. He also says he likes that Obama is not taking money from lobbyists or special interests.

Routh says he hopes his visit will empower people to caucus for Obama.

Routh is a former fashion model turned actor. He appeared on several television series before being cast as the title hero in the 2006 film Superman Returns.
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You think he'd spoil for the Democrats?


Blommberg gets a lot of moderates and independents
that would be breaking for the Dems in this election.


Three states?

Lets say NY. Florida and Ohio.

So if Hillary gets in the high 30s or low 40s

and Bloomberg gets in the high teens or low 20s

all Romney needs to get is the core conservative in the low to mid 40s

especially in Florida, NY and Ohio

a couple of swing states is the whole ball game
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I'm all for splitting the conservative vote.
Conservatives would not vote for Bloomberg

they would vote the GOP ticket.
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INDIANOLA, Iowa (CNN) — He may be able to leap tall buildings in a single bound, but Superman can’t caucus.

Actor and Iowa native Brandon Routh is better-known for his role as Superman, but Sunday night he made a cameo appearance on the campaign trail, speaking on behalf of Illinois Sen. Barack Obama at a rally in Indianola, Iowa.

Routh says he is "sad" that he can't caucus any more because he no longer lives in the Hawkeye State, but he says he's "excited" by Obama's ability to unite the country. He also says he likes that Obama is not taking money from lobbyists or special interests.

Routh says he hopes his visit will empower people to caucus for Obama.

Routh is a former fashion model turned actor. He appeared on several television series before being cast as the title hero in the 2006 film Superman Returns.
Awww. As an Iowan this really warms my heart.
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You think so? I figured he would harm the GOP.
Bloomberg has been a life long Democrat
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he is Jewish

he only went GOP because he could not get the Dem nomination for Mayor
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