nobody responded
I guess everyone is on board with merit pay for teachers?
OK - I will respond.....
I do not believe this will help education.
nobody responded
I guess everyone is on board with merit pay for teachers?
OK - I will respond.....
I do not believe this will help education.
that is one way to spin it
the American people are not stoopid
I expect the Democrats, who are in control of the Congress
will be repudiated on election day
there will be significant GOP gains, in the November election
I think you were talkin to me.
So yeah, with 56+ maybe even 59 0r 60 Democrats
I am taking a leap of faith
that they will grow a pair
will they be able to scrap up one more testes ?
(we know Hillary has one, I read it on Drudge Report).
There may or may not be a timetable, and I'm sure that if there is one, it will be conditional on progress continuing and obviously the Iraqi government could rescind the whole thing at any time if they felt they needed coalition support longer.
it seems Maliki wants one ...
The Iraqi proposal stipulates that, once Iraqi forces have resumed security responsibility in all 18 of Iraq's provinces, U.S.-led forces would then withdraw from all cities in the country.
After that, the country's security situation would be reviewed every six months, for three to five years, to decide when U.S.-led troops would pull out entirely, al-Adeeb said.
So far, the United States has handed control of nine of 18 provinces to Iraqi officials.
Iraq presses US on timeline for troop pullout - Yahoo! News
This is what they want, not some rapid unconditional withdrawal in 12 months that does not first insure the security and the stability of the country.
Iraq insists on withdrawal timetable for US troops
By SALLY BUZBEE, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 53 minutes ago
BAGHDAD - Iraq's national security adviser said Tuesday his country will not accept any security deal with the United States unless it contains specific dates for the withdrawal of U.S.-led forces.
The comments by Mouwaffak al-Rubaie were the strongest yet by an Iraqi official about the deal now under negotiation with U.S. officials. They came a day after Iraq's prime minister first said publicly that he expects the pending troop deal with the United States to have some type of timetable for withdrawal.
This is what they want, not some rapid unconditional withdrawal in 12 months that does not first insure the security and the stability of the country.
no one wants this. why do you keep pretending that someone does?
It might not be 12 months.
But, I expect it to include a hard date of no more than 36 - 48 months.
I deal with timetables, all the time.
Timetables do have "ranges". They also have end dates.
The "timetable" just allows some flex for a "short date" that many prefer.
And an "extended date" that others are more comfortable with.
that is one way to spin it
the American people are not stoopid
I expect the Democrats, who are in control of the Congress
will be repudiated on election day
there will be significant GOP gains, in the November election
Barack Obama and many of his fellow Democrats pressed for the start of an immediate withdrawal throughout 2007 attempting to attach amendments to spending bills that would have required the United States military to start immediately withdrawing without any prerequisites to be met first for the security and stability of the country. Barack Obama repeatedly stated that he wanted ALL US combat brigades to be withdrawn from Iraq by March 31, 2008. Its in the Foreign Affairs article that was linked a few pages back and its brought up in the spending bills as well. This all on record as is the majority of posters in the forum opposing both the surge and supporting withdrawal without first having as a prerequisite the security and stability of Iraq. Democrats like Murtha had even faster withdrawal timetables of 6 months with NO prerequisites to be met first before the withdrawal would begin.
do we really need to rehash the past few pages of this thread?
have you read a single post other than your own?
do we really need to rehash the past few pages of this thread?
have you read a single post other than your own?
You should be asking yourself that. I'm not the one who is confused about the positions that most Democrats have taken on the war in the past 18 months.
The position I have always advocated, and the position that the Bush administration, McCain and the United States military have supported, is that the nation building and counterinsurgency process under way in Iraq must continue until Iraq is developed and stable enough to handle the situation on their own. Troops should only be withdrawn when conditions on the ground warrent their withdrawal.
That has NOT been the position of most Democrats, posters on this message board, or Barack Obama over the past 18 months.
If one claims that Iraq is a "Civil War" that the United States military cannot help resolve or stop and should not be involved in stopping and should leave, but now is saying they are for a withdrawal that has as a prerequisite,
successfully resolving the conflict or "Civil War" and stabilzing the country, then they have in fact reversed their position on Iraq.
Either you are deliberately ignoring the nuance found in the posts on this topic (particulary those by Irvine) or you are completely unaware of the nuance in his (and, I'd suggest, Obama's as well) views.
As you seem like a pretty smart fellow, I'm putting my money on the former.
You've got a story and you're sticking to it.
Either you are deliberately ignoring the nuance found in the posts on this topic (particulary those by Irvine) or you are completely unaware of the nuance in his (and, I'd suggest, Obama's as well) views.
As you seem like a pretty smart fellow, I'm putting my money on the former.
You've got a story and you're sticking to it.
July 8, 2008
Gallup Daily: Obama 46%, McCain 44%Obama averaging a three-percentage point lead thus far in July
PRINCETON, NJ -- The nation's registered voters remain closely divided in their presidential preferences, with 46% of those interviewed in Gallup Poll Daily tracking from July 5-7 saying they will vote for Democrat Barack Obama and 44% favoring Republican John McCain.
Obama's lead has been as great as seven percentage points over the past month, but has averaged only three points thus far in July, identical to his average lead for the month of June. (To view the complete trend since March 7, 2008, click here.)
The fact that Obama has consistently held an advantage over McCain among registered voters in Gallup Poll Daily tracking since early June suggests that he could very well win the election were it held today (depending on voter turnout patterns). The important question, however, and one addressed in detail Monday on Gallup.com, is whether his consistently narrow lead at this point in mid-summer bodes well for him in November
In essence, the Gallup analysis finds that races that appear closely contested at the start of the summer tend to stay close for the duration of the campaign, up to and including Election Day. This describes the 2004, 2000, 1980, and 1960 elections.
The exceptions to this are years when, after being closely matched in early to mid-July, one of the candidates jumps into the lead following his party's national convention over the summer. In these cases -- including Bill Clinton in 1992, George H.W. Bush in 1988, and Richard Nixon in 1968 -- the candidate getting the big boost out of his convention ultimately won. -- Lydia Saad
Where is the nuance in claiming that Barack Obama did not vote for a spending bill to immediately start withdrawing US combat brigades from Iraq without any prerequisites for development and security there and set a date of March 31, 2008 to have all of the US combat brigades out of Iraq?
What an idiot, making a second language spoken by millions part of the normal curriculum. So stupid.
Can't believe any person would seriously consider such an embarrasingly stupid measure.
Barack Obama wants us all to learn Spanish.
YouTube - Barack Obama: Your Children Should Learn To Speak Spanish
This guy is such an idiot. Note how very few people behind him applauded.