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Old 07-24-2008, 03:14 PM   #871
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Funny. I can't believe they put McCain in that stair lift thing

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Old 07-24-2008, 03:15 PM   #872
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Old 07-24-2008, 03:38 PM   #873
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Deutschland Deutschland uber alles!
Ok, as an American you are allowed to say that, but you shouldn't ever do that in public.
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Old 07-24-2008, 03:39 PM   #874
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this is why they hate us. the Europeans. and this is why we're going to be left behind if we continue the narrow-minded, nativist perspectives exemplified here.

That's exactly what I was thinking while reading that truly uninformed post.
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Old 07-24-2008, 03:56 PM   #875
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I'm sorry, but I had to laugh when I read that. I could only stomach watching some of it, and it was laughable.

I'm tired of Obama and all Democrats talking about how we need to be "citizens of the world," as if there is something wrong with being an American. Obama mentioned how "the world" came together to rebuild Germany. No. The United States rebuilt Germany. "The world," including Germany and all of Europe is doing next to nothing about the problems in Africa. The United States is doing the bulk of that.

Where's the talk of American exceptionalism- from either candidate?

Uhmmm, ah, yes. Exactly. I guess.
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I was thinking the same thing. The image of Europeans excited about America and waving American flags rather than using them in protest is a stark contrast against what we've been seeing the last 8 years, and it's such a wonderful feeling.
That's because Europe and Europeans finally have the candidate they have always wanted. Since the beginning of time Europe has promoted socialism, and now America has the socialist candidate if there ever was one. No wonder everyone overseas is tripping over themselves over him.
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That's because Europe and Europeans finally have the candidate they have always wanted. Since the beginning of time Europe has promoted socialism, and now America has the socialist candidate if there ever was one. No wonder everyone overseas is tripping over themselves over him.


tell me, how is Barack Obama a socialist?

show me that Europeans are interested in making America into a mirror of their increasingly less social democracies.

please give me examples of European socialism "since the beginning of time."

is Obama more of a socialist than Hillary? or, if Hillary had won, would she be the socialist candidate if there ever was one?
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That's because Europe and Europeans finally have the candidate they have always wanted. Since the beginning of time Europe has promoted socialism, and now America has the socialist candidate if there ever was one. No wonder everyone overseas is tripping over themselves over him.
Are you serious?

I don't know where to begin. To call that statement uninformed is almost a compliment.
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Old 07-24-2008, 05:39 PM   #879
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That's cracking me up.

Seriously, will you ever put in the effort to get informed about what Socialism is, what's the difference between socialism and welfare states and most importantly, what the heck is going on outside the Republcan world?
I'm sick and tired getting labeled either a Nazi, because I'm German, or a Socialist, because I'm a European, to be honest.
We had fucking Socialism in large parts of Europe, and Germany was divided over this inhuman pile of crap of a political system. So please, stop trying to tell me I or large parts of my country are in any way in favour of ever again having murderers running our country.

On a more positive note, here are the pictures I've taken today (not in the right order, but almost : Vincent_Vega85 - Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting

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good for you, Vincent

looks like you had a good time

I think I may have seen one self-portrait in there.
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That's because Europe and Europeans finally have the candidate they have always wanted. Since the beginning of time Europe has promoted socialism, and now America has the socialist candidate if there ever was one. No wonder everyone overseas is tripping over themselves over him.
You should really take a year off from listening to Rush, Beck and their ilk and travel outside of the states for awhile, it would do you a world of good. Or at least take a world history class, something.
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Apparently everyone overseas is a socialist, that's why they're "tripping over themselves" for Obama.

America = good
Rest of world = bad socialists

The desire for pandering about "American Exceptionalism" does make more sense now.
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good for you, Vincent

looks like you had a good time

I think I may have seen one self-portrait in there.
Good catch. Yeah, I again tried to get a picture of myself.

It was fun time. Lots of people have been there, almost as many Americans as Germans it sometime seemed. Some people only came to Berlin to see or hear him speak, and I was pretty lucky to get so close to the front.
It was also a tiny insight into American election campaigning with all the supporters seeking out Americans and asking for registering etc. There were lots of Obama supporters,

It was also a bit like Popmart since no one knew exactly where he would pop up and which we he will take exactly. And he started 20 minutes late.


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Rush doesn't act like he's unbiased. Olbermann acts like he's just looking out for the folks from both sides, but, surprise surprise, it's only the Republicans who do anything bad and Democrats are perfect. I can't imagine anyone listening to Rush without knowing who he is or where he stands politically. I can't say the same about Olbermann. He is irresponsible.

Rush also doesn't moderate election night coverage.
I don't think anyone is confused about where Olbermann stands. In fact, I don't think you're confused about it either.

But nonetheless, perhaps you'd prefer an Olbermann/O'Reilly comparison?
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What kind of logic is that?

I was born in Eastern Europe, moved to Western Europe as a child, to Canada as a pre-teen, and am now in NY. I consider myself to be a citizen of the world and I think it is only a good thing that I have lived in so many places, and have acquainted myself with so many cultures, and learned to speak so many languages. I strive to be a citizen of the world, and that does not denigrate my formal citizenships, nor the countries I have lived in nor am living in.

If you don't wish to be part of an increasingly global community, that's your prerogative. But you will be left standing with a small crowd of like-minded people, because time and progress are just going to steamroll right over you.
Oh come on, Anitram. Admit it. You wish you were an American. Then you could be special too!
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