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Old 07-02-2008, 01:58 PM   #346
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I blame Obama for this.

Without two likely Obama terms, Limbaugh would have been worth only a fraction of that amount.
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I blame Obama for this.

Without two likely Obama terms, Limbaugh would have been worth only a fraction of that amount.

if it had been Hill, he'd have gotten double.
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I'll buy his plane ticket. This is the best endorsement Obama has gotten yet!
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and as the polls go, as Obama tacks to the Right and goes after GOP groups like Evanglicals, his lead in the polls has solidified, his lead in the swing states has grown, Latinos have flocked to him in enormous numbers, and McCain can't seem to find a line of attack, and all the while the charge that he's "McSame as Bush" is starting to stick.

as it stands, here, in July, it's no wonder that this man beat the Clintons.
Uh, think again.

Gallup Daily: McCain-Obama Race Tightens

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Gallup Daily: Obama 46%, McCain 44%

Statistical tie resumes following brief Obama lead


PRINCETON, NJ -- If the presidential election were held today, 46% of registered voters say they would vote for Barack Obama and 44% for John McCain, according to the latest Gallup Poll Daily tracking results.

The June 29-July 1 data show a tightening of the race with the candidates falling back into a statistical tie. Obama led by five percentage points in Monday and Tuesday reports -- based largely on polling conducted over the weekend -- perhaps enjoying a slight bounce following his "Unity" rally with former rival Hillary Clinton last Friday.

In the last two individual nights of polling, voter preferences have been closely divided. The race has generally been close in recent weeks, with Obama usually holding a slight edge.

Obama has been able to attain brief leads following his clinching of the nomination in early June and the Obama-Clinton joint campaign appearance.

These slight Obama bumps have proven to be short-lived, and from a larger perspective there has not been a dramatic restructuring of the race in recent weeks.
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if it had been Hill, he'd have gotten double.

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two likely Obama terms
I thought that would be music to your ears.


Hillary

he would not have got much at all

she would have been a one-termer

then we would have got 8 years of Jeb
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Limbaugh would have been worth only a fraction of that amount.
Although today the blowhard stated he considers it a paycut for he was expecting double.
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"LIMBAUGH SIGNS THROUGH 2016; $400 MILLION DEAL SHATTERS BROADCAST RECORDS "

I'm surprised Rush hasn't exploded with joy. Think of all the little blue pills and under-age prostitutes he can buy with that amount of dough!
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That is what he gets for tying half of his brain behind his back.
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Oprah is down

and Limbaugh is up

Obama has a reverse Midas touch
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Uh, think again.


uh, if you're going to go by daily polls, and only poll on the days that are most favorable, and only look at one poll, and ignore the polling in swing states and among critical groups, then you need to think again.

Obama's 5% lead has been consistent since he won the nomination, and that's in the right-leaning Rasmussen.

if you're interested in actually understanding what's going on and learning more rather than reconfirming your prejudices, i recommend you go to a real poll sight, one that's comprehensive, takes a deep, long look at all the polls, as well as the polling in each state. and when you do, you'll see that, as hard as it might be for you to understand, the picture looks better and better for Obama.

FiveThirtyEight.com: Electoral Projections Done Right

but continue only to look at what's favorable to you and ignore everything else. because that's what you do.
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I know how you feel. Right now I'm still planning to vote against the Republicans and that's the best I can do. I'm not convinced Obama can win, and if he does, I have low expectations of what he can accomplish. I wasn't exactly wild about Sen. Clinton but at least she was transparently what she is--a politician--and never pretended to be anything else. Obama pretends to be "different" and I think it's bullshit. Voting against the Republicans is better than staying home.
While I agree with you in regards to the Republicans, I just don't see anything being done. Maybe I just have political blues or something.

We seriously need a revamp of entire political process. It's such a joke to call ourselves a democracy when we only have 2 candidates to chose from.

Obama is full of shit, and he'll be no different than anyone else. I've read his website, and it's no different than what any one else would come up with.

It's false hope. If it wasn't for Bush being himself, there's no way BO would be the nominee.

I hope I'm wrong and if he wins he does bring respect back to our country, and is able to work with congress on getting real issues taken care of (healthcare, debt, etc).
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uh, if you're going to go by daily polls, and only poll on the days that are most favorable, and only look at one poll, and ignore the polling in swing states and among critical groups, then you need to think again.

Obama's 5% lead has been consistent since he won the nomination, and that's in the right-leaning Rasmussen.

if you're interested in actually understanding what's going on and learning more rather than reconfirming your prejudices, i recommend you go to a real poll sight, one that's comprehensive, takes a deep, long look at all the polls, as well as the polling in each state. and when you do, you'll see that, as hard as it might be for you to understand, the picture looks better and better for Obama.

FiveThirtyEight.com: Electoral Projections Done Right

but continue only to look at what's favorable to you and ignore everything else. because that's what you do.

Can you name another polling company that has been around as long as Gallup or is as accurate as Gallup? Guess which polling company was the closest at predicting the 2004 popular vote?

In the swing states, it does appear that Obama's position has greatly improved in the Blue states where he was vulnerable while red states like Virginia and Indiana have come into play. Still, things are very close in Virginia, Ohio, and Indiana and are more likely to go McCain's way as we get closer to election time and away from Obama's little victory at winning the nomination. Missouri and Nevada have so far resisted Obama's attempts to move into a more favorable position. Iowa, and Colorodo look like their in Obama's corner. The election may be decided in New Mexico or Ohio. Still this is all a very close race even when you look at it from the swing states. Historically, the Presidential race tightens as you get closer to election time. John Kerry had roughly the same lead over George Bush that Obama currently has over McCain in June 2004.

Here is an excellent site for polls: RealClearPolitics - RealClearPolitics Poll Averages
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if you're only going to rely on one polling company to get your info, then you're going to be woefully misinformed.

in mid-September 2004, Gallup showed a 13 point lead for GWB over Kerry. the Gallup poll was wrong in 1948 as well as in 1976. the point is not that Gallup is bad, but that Gallup isn't alone.

to claim that only one poll is always trustworthy, and that others are not, is foolish.

but if we want to look at Gallup, they support one of my main contentions: Obama is winning, big, in the Latino community.
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[q]McCain Orders Shake-Up of His Campaign

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Published: July 3, 2008

WASHINGTON — Senator John McCain’s presidential campaign has gone through its second shake-up in a year as Mr. McCain, responding to Republican concerns that his candidacy was faltering, put Steve Schmidt in charge of day-to-day operations and abandoned an effort to have the campaign run by 11 regional managers, the senator’s aides said Wednesday.

Mr. Schmidt is a veteran of President Bush’s 2004 re-election campaign and he worked closely with Karl Rove, who was Mr. Bush’s political adviser. His installation at Mr. McCain’s headquarters sharply diminished the responsibilities of Rick Davis, who has been Mr. McCain’s campaign manager since the last shake-up nearly a year ago.

Mr. McCain’s advisers said that Mr. Davis would continue to hold the position of campaign manager, but that Mr. Schmidt had taken over every major operation where Mr. McCain has shown signs of struggling: communications, scheduling and basic political strategy.

The shift was approved by Mr. McCain after several aides, including Mr. Schmidt, warned him about 10 days ago that he was in danger of losing the presidential election unless he revamped his campaign operation, according to two officials close to the campaign.

Mr. Schmidt and Mr. Davis declined requests for comment.

In the first public reflection of Mr. Schmidt’s new role, the campaign is planning what will amount to a relaunch of Mr. McCain’s candidacy after July 4, with the senator touring the country to promote a jobs program and visiting battleground states like Colorado, Wisconsin and Michigan to illustrate the economic problems he will be talking about.

By contrast, in moves that drew widespread derision by Republicans and delighted Democrats, Mr. McCain recently delivered a speech on energy policy before an audience of oil executives in Houston and came out in favor of offshore drilling in a speech in Santa Barbara, Calif. In both cases, Mr. McCain’s aides said, he ended up delivering those speeches in those locations because he was there fund-raising.

As part of the shake-up, the McCain campaign is abandoning from what had been a big innovation by Mr. Davis, in which the campaign would largely be directed by 11 regional campaign managers who have been given power over everything from where Mr. McCain would go to what advertisements he would run. Mr. Schmidt has told associates that he feared that system was unworkable and would lead to gridlock in the campaign; instead, he is likely to install a political director in Mr. McCain’s campaign headquarters.

Mr. Schmidt’s elevation is the latest sign of increasing influence of veterans of Mr. Rove’s campaign efforts in the McCain operation. Nicolle Wallace, who was communications director for Mr. Bush in the 2004 campaign and in his White House, has joined the campaign as a senior adviser, and will travel with Mr. McCain every other week. Greg Jenkins, another veteran of Mr. Rove’s operation, has joined the McCain communications operation.

Mr. Jenkins is a former Fox News producer and a director of Mr. Bush’s presidential advance team that set up political events.

Many Republicans, including some of Mr. McCain’s own aides, were greatly concerned about a speech that Mr. McCain gave the night that Senator Barack Obama claimed the Democratic presidential nomination. During that speech, Mr. McCain stood in front of a green background facing a low-energy crowd of supporters, providing a startling contrast with Mr. Obama’s supporters.

Charlie Black, one of Mr. McCain’s senior advisers and an ally of Mr. Davis, described the change in the campaign operation as a retooling in advance of the general election. He said Mr. Schmidt would be the chief operating officer of the campaign, serving under Mr. Davis, in charge mostly of helping Mr. McCain settle on a message and get it out with speeches, advertisements, and surrogate events.

“He is going to be the chief choreographer,” Mr. Black said of Mr. Schmidt.

Still, other Republicans said that Mr. Schmidt was, for all intents and purposes, now in charge of the campaign and that Mr. Davis would work on more longer-term projects. They said they had been trying to make this change quietly to avoid another round of news reports about a campaign in chaos.

The shift comes after what even Mr. McCain’s aides acknowledged has been a squandered period of campaigning since he became the presumptive Republican nominee in February, a time when Mr. Obama was engaged in a tough struggle with Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton for the Democratic nomination. On Wednesday, Mr. McCain visited Colombia, his second overseas trip in a month, and one that he took despite the urging of Republicans who said he needed to convey to voters his concerns about domestic problems and the economy.

“Somebody asked, ‘what’s the strategy behind this?’ ” Mr. Black said of the foreign travel. “It’s simple. McCain says he wants to go to these places, and we say of course.”

But, Mr. Black added, the trip to Colombia should help to underline what the McCain campaign wanted to make “one of the big contrasts in this race: Obama wants to become the first protectionist president in our history since Herbert Hoover.”[/q]
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While I agree with you in regards to the Republicans, I just don't see anything being done. Maybe I just have political blues or something.

We seriously need a revamp of entire political process. It's such a joke to call ourselves a democracy when we only have 2 candidates to chose from.

Obama is full of shit, and he'll be no different than anyone else. I've read his website, and it's no different than what any one else would come up with.

It's false hope. If it wasn't for Bush being himself, there's no way BO would be the nominee.

I hope I'm wrong and if he wins he does bring respect back to our country, and is able to work with congress on getting real issues taken care of (healthcare, debt, etc).
I agree with you 100%. The reason I say it's better to vote against the Republicans than stay home is because of the Supreme Court appointees that might come up during the next term. I do think/hope Obama would get that right--but who knows. The Democrats are embarrassing, they have done nothing. I would see an Obama win as generally good international PR and a good symbolic breakthrough, but in fairness to Obama, I think things are so fucked up I don't think anyone could make a big difference at this point. It's going to take a long time to undo Bush's damage and it's bigger than any one administration.
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