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Old 09-18-2008, 03:00 AM   #931
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Credible feminist organizations have thrown their support to the Obama campaign.

The Associated Press: Women's rights groups endorse Obama for president
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pragmatic flexibility
-- formerly known as flip-flopping

see also: indecisive, wishy-washy, without principles, opportunistic and pandering
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-- formerly known as flip-flopping

see also: indecisive, wishy-washy, without principles, opportunistic and pandering
What, like McCain's tax plan, his born-again regulation of Wall Street philosophy?
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Hopefully, the tide is turning back in Obama's direction...what was it Clinton said....'It's the economy, stupid'.


it does seem to be. the polls are slowly but surely moving back to Obama, and he seems to have found his groove on the stump with a particularly nice line about [paraphrased], "McCain says he's going to take on the old boys network; in the McCain campaign, they call "the old boys network" a staff meeting."

that's a memorable line that will stick.

and don't think that Tina Fey and Sarah Palin is going to go away any time soon. the ratings were boffo for SNL last week (despite that being the only tolerable skit). so expect much more.

seems like that ad is deceitful. though this is what the Democrats have been begging Obama to do for quite a while. no doubt the large amount of Latino voters in CO, NM, and especially NV were the targets for this ad.

and i agree with Utoo -- if there's a conspiracy behind Ms. Palin's Yahoo! account, i'd be more inclined to think that it was the McCain campaign itself trying to generate sympathy.
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see also: indecisive, wishy-washy, without principles, opportunistic and pandering


these are precisely the characteristics that would have prevented Iraq, Katrina, the decimation of the Justice Department, the wild expansion of executive powers, the erosion of our standing in the world, the deregulation of the markets to the extent that perhaps capitalism as we know it has collapsed ...

give me a flip-flopper any day over an incurious, proud-to-be-ignorant ideologue.
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a senior moment for McCain?

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During an interview in Miami earlier this week with Spanish-language station Union Radio, a reporter asked McCain whether, if elected, he would receive Zapatero in the White House. McCain answered, "Honestly, I have to analyze our relationships, situations, and priorities, but I can assure you that I will establish closer relationships with our friends, and I will stand up to those who want to harm the United States."

Ouch. The question about Zapatero, clearly framed by the reporter as a question about Spain, came after inquiries on Venezuela, Bolivia, and Cuba. As a result, much of the Spanish press has decided that the Republican candidate, who hails himself as the experienced foreign policy choice in this election, confused Spain — a NATO member and key ally in the fight against terrorism — with one of those troublesome Latin American states. That was certainly the interviewer's impression, for she followed up with a gentle reminder that Spain was a country in Europe. As Spanish newspaper El Pas put it, "In the best-case scenario, [his answer] demonstrates his ignorance with respect to Zapatero."

so does John McCain not know who the president of Spain is, or does he think Spain is a country in Latin America?
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Yes but is we are merely stating facts here

It is a irrefutable fact that more Americans voted for John Kerry for President
than the number of Americans that voted for Ronald Reagan in 1984.

So, Reagan's 1984 landslide falls behind both Al Gore and John Kerry in number of votes.


More American went to the polls for Al Gore or John Kerry than for Reagan in a single election.
Actually, a lot of this is incorrect. Lets take a look at the numbers.


number of people voting for Reagan in 1984: 54,455,472
number of people voting for Al Gore in 2000: 51,003,926
number of people voting for J. Kerry in 2004: 59,028,439
number of people voting for Johnson in 1964: 43,127,041

number of people voting for W in 2004: 62,040,610


Yes, John Kerry and George Bush in 2004 did receive more votes than Reagan did in 1984 if you just compare the nominal numbers. But if you adjust for the size of the population which was 235 million in 1984 VS. 295 million in 2004, then Reagan's 1984 victory is still out in front.
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W is actually one of the least popular U S Presidents ever.


In 1964 when L B J got one of the highest percentages - 61.1%
the population was 192 million.

Sorry, but your definitely not one of the least popular Presidents ever when you get re-elected with over 50% of the popular vote. W got 50.73% of the popular vote in 2004.

There are only TWO democratic Presidents that have ever been re-elected with 50% or more of the popular vote, Andrew Jackson and Franklin Roosevelt. Without those two, the Democrats don't have anyone as popular and successful as W was in November 2004.

Yes, if you adjust for population, Johnson is ahead of W, but not by much and Johnson was not re-elected like W.
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so does John McCain not know who the president of Spain is, or does he think Spain is a country in Latin America?
On Meet The Press, Joe Biden claimed that there were no Sunni's in Al Anbar Province. He later tried to correct himself by saying there were no Shia in Al Anbar province which is also incorrect.
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it does seem to be. the polls are slowly but surely moving back to Obama, and he seems to have found his groove on the stump with a particularly nice line about [paraphrased], "McCain says he's going to take on the old boys network; in the McCain campaign, they call "the old boys network" a staff meeting."

that's a memorable line that will stick.

and don't think that Tina Fey and Sarah Palin is going to go away any time soon. the ratings were boffo for SNL last week (despite that being the only tolerable skit). so expect much more.

seems like that ad is deceitful. though this is what the Democrats have been begging Obama to do for quite a while. no doubt the large amount of Latino voters in CO, NM, and especially NV were the targets for this ad.

and i agree with Utoo -- if there's a conspiracy behind Ms. Palin's Yahoo! account, i'd be more inclined to think that it was the McCain campaign itself trying to generate sympathy.
Naturally, Obama is getting his bump from the bad financial news of the past few days. Its clear that in order for Obama to win in November, he is going to need continued bad news on the economic front for the country.

But still, there is no sign of that Obama Tsunami. Provided McCain/Palin win Ohio, Virginia, and Colorado, they are going to win the election regardless of the popular vote. Latest poll in Colorado has McCain/Palin ahead by two points.
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On Meet The Press, Joe Biden claimed that there were no Sunni's in Al Anbar Province. He later tried to correct himself by saying there were no Shia in Al Anbar province which is also incorrect.


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Naturally, Obama is getting his bump from the bad financial news of the past few days. Its clear that in order for Obama to win in November, he is going to need continued bad news on the economic front for the country.

now that the election has shifted back to actual issues instead of "lipstick on a pig" and "sex ed for 5 year olds," that can only mean bad news for McCain. it's terribly obvious to everyone that McCain doesn't have any grasp of economic issues, and nearly all of the actual issues themselves heavily favor the Democrats. McCain had hoped to start another culture war with the pick of Palin, but as her favorability ratings continue to plummet in the polls, her inexperience and lack of any comprehensive understanding of any national issues are going to make her a liability. thus, he'll have to manufacture another distraction, and quickly, if he doesn't want to be too far behind before the first debate begins. i wonder what they'll cook up?



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But still, there is no sign of that Obama Tsunami. Provided McCain/Palin win Ohio, Virginia, and Colorado, they are going to win the election regardless of the popular vote. Latest poll in Colorado has McCain/Palin ahead by two points.


are you really going to keep this up? the tsunami thing?

some polls have Obama ahead in OH and tied in FL.
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Hey, apparently paying higher taxes is patriotic, according to Joe.

Well geeze, that just makes me want to vote for Obama/Biden, then. God Bless America!
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You know, I was just thinking that how the McCain campaign responds to this ad could be quite revealing. Will he dare to disassociate himself from Limbaugh?
You don't need to disassociate yourself from someone you've never been associated with.
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